Caravan endorsement? worthwhile?
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Caravan endorsement? worthwhile?
Just a quick question, would a Caravan endorsement be worth while? at the moment i only have single piston time, CPL, obviously first up will be IFR rating.
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Get a job first
Don't get me started on paying for ratings. I only upset the moderator when i get on my soap box.
But pertanent things that I think need to be realistic here, are that you sound low time, and yes you will want an IFR rating. I remember working for a operator in SE QLD, when he first got his caravan, and what he went through, ie mortgaging the house, the dog, the kids to the hilt to take his business to the next level. He paid and trained his pilots to the way he needed his aircraft flown. He expected loyalty and really only promoted his pilots who he believed were staying, and i believe he received a return of service without charging or bonding. My example that i want you to consider is that i had 2000 hours and 4000 sea landings before I could be considered for the amphib config. His biggest issue was that i was 21, and he compared me to what he was doing at 21. He struggled cutting me loose because of my age and his expectations. I gave him over 7 years. I think i did my dues. I know its just a van, but its also a $2m USD airplane, that has only one engine and often is operated in extreme places.
I would like to offer the advice to get employed with the companies that operate them, and you will find that if you were to get on a twin like a chieftain or an aerocommander etc, as the ones in FNQ, then with seniority be trained by the company to the way the company wants you to fly it. I would suggest that sop's vary as to bosses expectations of how you fly it would vary, so paying for one at the caravan shop might be a waste of money. Having said that, if you are despirate to part with $5k+, then a Flight Safety one is my pick as its a very good bench mark, plus a good exposure to real emergencies in a simulator, instead of pretend engine failures to 500 feet. My experience with such emergencies are make or break below 500 feet.
To take things even further, some FNQ operators run 2 crew, so some FO time is always a better exposure than just get a rating, and good luck. Holding a hand is a good thing, with even something like a caravan. It is an IFR airplane, and is a little overwelming when coming from basic VFR little singles. Having said that, its is a lovely thing to fly.
Take care and best wishes.
But pertanent things that I think need to be realistic here, are that you sound low time, and yes you will want an IFR rating. I remember working for a operator in SE QLD, when he first got his caravan, and what he went through, ie mortgaging the house, the dog, the kids to the hilt to take his business to the next level. He paid and trained his pilots to the way he needed his aircraft flown. He expected loyalty and really only promoted his pilots who he believed were staying, and i believe he received a return of service without charging or bonding. My example that i want you to consider is that i had 2000 hours and 4000 sea landings before I could be considered for the amphib config. His biggest issue was that i was 21, and he compared me to what he was doing at 21. He struggled cutting me loose because of my age and his expectations. I gave him over 7 years. I think i did my dues. I know its just a van, but its also a $2m USD airplane, that has only one engine and often is operated in extreme places.
I would like to offer the advice to get employed with the companies that operate them, and you will find that if you were to get on a twin like a chieftain or an aerocommander etc, as the ones in FNQ, then with seniority be trained by the company to the way the company wants you to fly it. I would suggest that sop's vary as to bosses expectations of how you fly it would vary, so paying for one at the caravan shop might be a waste of money. Having said that, if you are despirate to part with $5k+, then a Flight Safety one is my pick as its a very good bench mark, plus a good exposure to real emergencies in a simulator, instead of pretend engine failures to 500 feet. My experience with such emergencies are make or break below 500 feet.
To take things even further, some FNQ operators run 2 crew, so some FO time is always a better exposure than just get a rating, and good luck. Holding a hand is a good thing, with even something like a caravan. It is an IFR airplane, and is a little overwelming when coming from basic VFR little singles. Having said that, its is a lovely thing to fly.
Take care and best wishes.
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i wouldn't say im Low tme, or high time for that matter, the lower end of the 500 to 1000hr bracket. and i am currently paid to fly as an instructor, something i am really enjoying funnily enough. we have a 207 which im familiar in, but also access to a caravan, just wondering if it would be worth while begging and pleading to the boss for an endo in it.. though its not part of the school fleet and business. so i dont think the boss will pay me to get endorsed. i have no desire to earn a living watching an airborne computer at 33,000ft, but could easily see myself in the islands on a nice float plane charter. or dare i say it, REX or QL, (if they paid enough)
Are they in SE Queensland? Toowomba way?
then a Flight Safety one is my pick as its a very good bench mark,
Try the United States.
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