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Anyone know the following with regards to RFDS SE Section:
1. What is the pay like?
2. What is the rostering like?
3. Any other conditions worth mentioning?
1. What is the pay like?
2. What is the rostering like?
3. Any other conditions worth mentioning?
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I think there are a few in here that work for the RFDS.
I would be interested to know myself as I would love to fly and have a purpose to it as well. Question also for those that add to this thread the Sydney base is the same as the Melbourne base right as in the same section?
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I would be interested to know myself as I would love to fly and have a purpose to it as well. Question also for those that add to this thread the Sydney base is the same as the Melbourne base right as in the same section?
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RFDS (SE Section) have bases in BHI, EN, LT, SY & DU
Pay and conditions on par with award or better. Rostering I understand is "balanced". They have a lot of long term pilots who all seem quite happy, tho' there is a bit of turnover at the bottom.
Call the CP at EN and ask!! get it first hand....
Pay and conditions on par with award or better. Rostering I understand is "balanced". They have a lot of long term pilots who all seem quite happy, tho' there is a bit of turnover at the bottom.
Call the CP at EN and ask!! get it first hand....
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Rosters vary from base to base dependant on whether it is contract (Ambulance) work, or pure RFDS work, but usually around 7 to 8 work days per fortnight. Starting pay is from $76,500 to $81,500 depending on which base.
No PC-12's at SE section...
3. Any other conditions worth mentioning?
You won't see PC-12 in Victoria on the contract while they have Ambulance Officers e
board as crew, might be different if the RFDS employ their own flight nurses down the track.
board as crew, might be different if the RFDS employ their own flight nurses down the track.
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RFDS Single Engine (SE) Section ?
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Back to the topic.......... Do the bases vary much in wages and conditions between states?. would you expect to see the same sort of T&C in the West as say the NT?
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The agreements on the AFAP are short by exactly 10K. The Co gave all pilots a 10K increase accross the board a few months ago when pilots were in short supply, its being paid but the EBA's have not yet been updated. Each pilot has a letter of advice to this effect.
New Pro-Line 21 equipped Kings Air's are being implemented accross the section. The first entered service in BHI in August 2008. 3 more are on the way with two going into Dubbo and a second for BHI. If they get the EN contract again they will be next. All will have the new design Med fit with the possible exception of EN. Morale is good in BHI and EN, not sure about the rest. Rosters are OK but due to the Co only employing the basic minimum the required minimum time free of duty is what you get!
Oh yes, If you dont wan't to pump some fuel and handle 200L drums 5 days per month in 30+ degree heat on your own on clinics then don't go to BHI. Its hard work but that base does however have the best flying on offer.
Best job out I reckon! Good gear and great flying.
New Pro-Line 21 equipped Kings Air's are being implemented accross the section. The first entered service in BHI in August 2008. 3 more are on the way with two going into Dubbo and a second for BHI. If they get the EN contract again they will be next. All will have the new design Med fit with the possible exception of EN. Morale is good in BHI and EN, not sure about the rest. Rosters are OK but due to the Co only employing the basic minimum the required minimum time free of duty is what you get!
Oh yes, If you dont wan't to pump some fuel and handle 200L drums 5 days per month in 30+ degree heat on your own on clinics then don't go to BHI. Its hard work but that base does however have the best flying on offer.
Best job out I reckon! Good gear and great flying.
Soup Nazi,
I am not surprised one can distort the operating costs if you are only using the PC12 for day clinic runs
when you have a fleet of B200s doing work night and day alongside.
If you used them night and day alnongside the B200 I am sure the figures would be very much in favour of the PC12. Remember - an airframe does not earn money in the hangar overnight.
I am not surprised one can distort the operating costs if you are only using the PC12 for day clinic runs
when you have a fleet of B200s doing work night and day alongside.If you used them night and day alnongside the B200 I am sure the figures would be very much in favour of the PC12. Remember - an airframe does not earn money in the hangar overnight.
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Thats true. I guess you have to wonder why they would still choose the B200for the clinics though. In the end it all comes down to how the operator defines the requirement. The B200 is still a very serious and safe platform for round the clock IFR.
Thats true. I guess you have to wonder why they would still choose the B200for the clinics though. In the end it all comes down to how the operator defines the requirement. The B200 is still a very serious and safe platform for round the clock IFR.
Soup Nazi, not sure where you've gotten your info from, but I can assure you QLD Section are NOT getting rid of their PC-12's at all. Quite a capable platform for what they are being used for. 1 engine burning 400lbs/hr at 250kts, or 2 engines burning 600lbs/hr at 255kts. How does the B200 come out cheaper?
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I DID NOT SAY THE B200 IS CHEAPER TO RUN THAN THE PC-12. I dont claim to know which is the cheaper over all, I'm not privi to the finer points of the costings, but I do know that the for commercial purposes the PC-12 airframe is normally costed over a 15000 hour life whereas the B200 airframe is normally costed for 20000 hours effective from new.
The B200 you are in does seem slow to me, I have many 1000's in King Airs and I have never flown one that slow and thats at reduced Co settings. most are at around 265, with a new airframe you get at least 280 at FL250. Don't forget the new GT's are also much quicker. The B200 is also capable of flying higher and has better climb performance, very handy if your trying to out climb ice!
That said I have nothing against the PC-12 and would gladly fly one if it were put in front of me at night and in IMC. It is very capable for Aeromed purposes, especially the cabin size and it has great access, but I still prefer the B200 any day from a pilots point of view its a pleasure.
I DID NOT SAY THE B200 IS CHEAPER TO RUN THAN THE PC-12. I dont claim to know which is the cheaper over all, I'm not privi to the finer points of the costings, but I do know that the for commercial purposes the PC-12 airframe is normally costed over a 15000 hour life whereas the B200 airframe is normally costed for 20000 hours effective from new.
The B200 you are in does seem slow to me, I have many 1000's in King Airs and I have never flown one that slow and thats at reduced Co settings. most are at around 265, with a new airframe you get at least 280 at FL250. Don't forget the new GT's are also much quicker. The B200 is also capable of flying higher and has better climb performance, very handy if your trying to out climb ice!
That said I have nothing against the PC-12 and would gladly fly one if it were put in front of me at night and in IMC. It is very capable for Aeromed purposes, especially the cabin size and it has great access, but I still prefer the B200 any day from a pilots point of view its a pleasure.
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the NG pc 12 that west ops operating, will easerly sit on 265-270kts compared to the series 9 and 10 that are around 240kt.
Have been told that the Ng's are very slippery little machines.
Have been told that the Ng's are very slippery little machines.
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I think what we are seeing is a little vying for position as far as HBC and pilatas are concerned. HBC have released a spec'd up B200 (305kt), I think after Pilatas announced the release of the new PC-12. On one hand the Aeromed industry would be insignificant to HBC however Pilatas would regard it as bread and butter. Both models are well overdue.
Personally I think there is there is room in the market for a utility class aircraft with two engines that has the usability and convenience of the PC-12. Whoever produces that airframe should find world wide sales from the aeromed industry as well as military and freight.
I think what we are seeing is a little vying for position as far as HBC and pilatas are concerned. HBC have released a spec'd up B200 (305kt), I think after Pilatas announced the release of the new PC-12. On one hand the Aeromed industry would be insignificant to HBC however Pilatas would regard it as bread and butter. Both models are well overdue.
Personally I think there is there is room in the market for a utility class aircraft with two engines that has the usability and convenience of the PC-12. Whoever produces that airframe should find world wide sales from the aeromed industry as well as military and freight.
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'SN' is spot on re wages etc, +10K on top of the AFAP advertised numbers. The QLD section is the way to go re wages, they have the best bucks! Can't say the same for some of the planes there though, ya can't pay me enough bucks to fly those PC12 thingy's
Rosters? Well it's shift & that combined with 24/7 coverage means if you want a social life go work for the Govt.
The RFDS do have reduced pwr seetings hence the lower than normal TAS.
The new GT's (if they ever come to the SE section) will be better (TAS wise) as mentioned here, same gee gee's though, no increase there.
If by some slight chance that the RFDS doesn't get awarded the new tender in a couple of years time (they are the prefered operator)then it's anyones guess as to the wages etc but the airframes will be the same, twins only...........pheeewww
'SN' although there is room for a utility A/C being a twin that is I doubt we shall see a new entrant for many years yet. The cost alone to bring a new type to fruition not to mention the associated costs re getting them proven for anyones use never lone AeroMed would be incredible, but stranger things have happened in aviation before
The P188 even though is in production isn't a contender for any of the Aeromed sections in Oz at the moment as far as I know. Oh they would love to have 'em but they wouldn't be suitable overall or as robust as the old Beech design. It's a truck (the Beech), it's a beast, it's a flying shed but it's built like the proverbial brick sh1thouse & has TWO of the best sounding "door hinges" I've ever heard
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'SN' is spot on re wages etc, +10K on top of the AFAP advertised numbers. The QLD section is the way to go re wages, they have the best bucks! Can't say the same for some of the planes there though, ya can't pay me enough bucks to fly those PC12 thingy's
Rosters? Well it's shift & that combined with 24/7 coverage means if you want a social life go work for the Govt.
The RFDS do have reduced pwr seetings hence the lower than normal TAS.
The new GT's (if they ever come to the SE section) will be better (TAS wise) as mentioned here, same gee gee's though, no increase there.
If by some slight chance that the RFDS doesn't get awarded the new tender in a couple of years time (they are the prefered operator)then it's anyones guess as to the wages etc but the airframes will be the same, twins only...........pheeewww
'SN' although there is room for a utility A/C being a twin that is I doubt we shall see a new entrant for many years yet. The cost alone to bring a new type to fruition not to mention the associated costs re getting them proven for anyones use never lone AeroMed would be incredible, but stranger things have happened in aviation before
The P188 even though is in production isn't a contender for any of the Aeromed sections in Oz at the moment as far as I know. Oh they would love to have 'em but they wouldn't be suitable overall or as robust as the old Beech design. It's a truck (the Beech), it's a beast, it's a flying shed but it's built like the proverbial brick sh1thouse & has TWO of the best sounding "door hinges" I've ever heard
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