Geoff Thomas "Aviation Expert" on Sunrise
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Well all i can say is "You know what an expert is ....x is an unknown factor ..and a spert comes from something under pressure.....so Geoff must be an unknown factor under pressure.....lol
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Let us not fall into the trap of getting 'personal' towards Thomas. It is certainly 'open season' on his qualifications and comments by discussing their validity to the current matter.
You know, the same way contributors to PPRuNe vigorously discuss Dick Smith's ideas without resorting to personal and demeaning abuse.
You know, the same way contributors to PPRuNe vigorously discuss Dick Smith's ideas without resorting to personal and demeaning abuse.
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I don't know what all the hassle is about. Sunrise and the Today show have about as much credibility as Today Tonight and A Current Affair.
Basically sensationalist, tabloid trash
Basically sensationalist, tabloid trash
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Think before submitting!
Beached As Brew won't be around for a few days.
Just remember people - Don't write anything slanderous or libellous unless you're prepared to back it up in court.
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Just remember people - Don't write anything slanderous or libellous unless you're prepared to back it up in court.
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Personally, I have found the skills and objectivity of the interviewer to be somewhat lacking on a wide range of topics.
I expected, and received, another disappointing few minutes viewing, finalised by a sweeping statement supported by all previous questions (not necessarily the answers) and bearing little resemblance to the relevant issues.
I've been critical of some of Dick's public appearances in the past, but I suspect one of 2 reasons explain why he wasn't interviewed - either he wasn't available, or he didn't have the right opinion.
I expected, and received, another disappointing few minutes viewing, finalised by a sweeping statement supported by all previous questions (not necessarily the answers) and bearing little resemblance to the relevant issues.
I've been critical of some of Dick's public appearances in the past, but I suspect one of 2 reasons explain why he wasn't interviewed - either he wasn't available, or he didn't have the right opinion.
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There's nothing else to call them, as a Professional is merely someone who gets paid to do what they do. Eg. we've all probably been a professional lawnmowist as some stage of our lives, but that doesn't make us an expert.
An Expert (SME - Subject Matter Expert) is either self proclaimed or someone who has been awarded or commended on their contributions. In this case the journalist has been awarded or commended on their contribution to aviation reporting and can rightly-so proport to be an expert and I would agree with that.
I didn't (and it seems that nobody else) agreed to the comments this morning.
An Expert (SME - Subject Matter Expert) is either self proclaimed or someone who has been awarded or commended on their contributions. In this case the journalist has been awarded or commended on their contribution to aviation reporting and can rightly-so proport to be an expert and I would agree with that.
I didn't (and it seems that nobody else) agreed to the comments this morning.
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Anyone else going to do the x-spurt joke before we wrap it up?
I did not see the segment but, having worked with Geoffrey on a project previously, I would like to hear his side of the story. However, if the thread continues on as a character assassination, then I wouldn't blame him for ignoring it.
We all bemoan shoddy aviation stories we read, and journos skulking in the threads on fishing expeditions. GT is one of the few that posts under his own name and is accessible to us here on Pprune. It would be a pity to encourage anonymous journo's here.
I did not see the segment but, having worked with Geoffrey on a project previously, I would like to hear his side of the story. However, if the thread continues on as a character assassination, then I wouldn't blame him for ignoring it.
We all bemoan shoddy aviation stories we read, and journos skulking in the threads on fishing expeditions. GT is one of the few that posts under his own name and is accessible to us here on Pprune. It would be a pity to encourage anonymous journo's here.
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I certainly regard GT as enough of an "expert" to warrant listening to. I always read his articles in Australian Aviation and have a couple of his books (e.g. "Qantas Flightpaths"). Whenever I encounter an article of his somewhere (e.g a newspaper), I will go out of my way to read it.
I have been a GA pilot for over 20 years and a close follower of the industry, world-wide, for much longer - I have had a subscription to Flight International for about 25 years now.
GT - if you're reading this - keep up the good work. The Qantas Flightpaths book is so good it should be a textbook for just about everybody in aviation.
As for the appearance of a "live" interview: Television stations often will capture a long, sometimes rambling interview with some expert then take out little snippets for play back later. Of course, those snippets need to be given "context" so the TV station will add the interview questions back in, so as to fit the snippets!
And the interviewer, of course, will not be the original interviewer but one of the personalities that is normally on air at that time slot (e.g Koch or Mel). So Mel just reads out the list of questions and the snippets are played back in response.
To the average viewer, it all looks perfectly live.
I have been a GA pilot for over 20 years and a close follower of the industry, world-wide, for much longer - I have had a subscription to Flight International for about 25 years now.
GT - if you're reading this - keep up the good work. The Qantas Flightpaths book is so good it should be a textbook for just about everybody in aviation.
As for the appearance of a "live" interview: Television stations often will capture a long, sometimes rambling interview with some expert then take out little snippets for play back later. Of course, those snippets need to be given "context" so the TV station will add the interview questions back in, so as to fit the snippets!
And the interviewer, of course, will not be the original interviewer but one of the personalities that is normally on air at that time slot (e.g Koch or Mel). So Mel just reads out the list of questions and the snippets are played back in response.
To the average viewer, it all looks perfectly live.
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Originally Posted by FoxtrotAlpha18
Another big call! What other reasons are there Trojan?
I'm assuming you're about to lay your cards on the table and declare to all that he's a 50,000 hour pilot who flies the Red Bull Air Race course in a B777 with it's engines shut down and designed the A380 in his spare time.
Do you agree with what he said or not?
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Enough with the "ooooh! You'll be in trouble"
I'm assuming you're about to lay your cards on the table and declare to all that he's a 50,000 hour pilot who flies the Red Bull Air Race course in a B777 with it's engines shut down and designed the A380 in his spare time.
Do you agree with what he said or not?
I'm assuming you're about to lay your cards on the table and declare to all that he's a 50,000 hour pilot who flies the Red Bull Air Race course in a B777 with it's engines shut down and designed the A380 in his spare time.
Do you agree with what he said or not?
Have met him and he always strikes me as a decent fellow. Don't know his flying background but, as far as I'm concerned, that doesn't matter. I agree with FGD that he's a good commentator worth reading.
I also don't know enough about the GA scene to know whether he's right or not, however I suspect he didn't just pluck his claims out of his arse for the sake of a good sound bite.
G'Day FA18
WRT the magazine, I don't like the articles that read like press releases (with little crititcal analyses), many of the opinions expressed over the years and an apparent pre-occupation with military aviation. All personal opinion, of course.
I do not mean for this to sound like a personal attack. GT has been recognised as a successful aviation journalist and I am sure he is a decent fellow.
However, Bankstown tower was operating at the time and so comments relating to pilots not making radio calls to avoid fees are unhelpful and irrelevant. Viewers who know very little about aviation or GA will be up in arms after hearing speculation like that. Hence D Koche's comment about an inquiry into aviation.
WRT the magazine, I don't like the articles that read like press releases (with little crititcal analyses), many of the opinions expressed over the years and an apparent pre-occupation with military aviation. All personal opinion, of course.
I do not mean for this to sound like a personal attack. GT has been recognised as a successful aviation journalist and I am sure he is a decent fellow.
However, Bankstown tower was operating at the time and so comments relating to pilots not making radio calls to avoid fees are unhelpful and irrelevant. Viewers who know very little about aviation or GA will be up in arms after hearing speculation like that. Hence D Koche's comment about an inquiry into aviation.
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G'Day FA18
WRT the magazine, I don't like the articles that read like press releases (with little crititcal analyses), many of the opinions expressed over the years and an apparent pre-occupation with military aviation. All personal opinion, of course.
WRT the magazine, I don't like the articles that read like press releases (with little crititcal analyses), many of the opinions expressed over the years and an apparent pre-occupation with military aviation. All personal opinion, of course.
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I have never posted on this forum however being closely assosiated with the events of the last few days I felt I must. The only thing more shocking too us all than loosing our friend and collegue was the disgraceful behavior of the media, the tricks, lies, and harassment of the Family, Ken and the staff of the schools involved has left me with a sour taste in my mouth that will not leave me for a very long time. Its quite ironic that this forum has focussed on the sunrise program as channel 7 were by far the most appaling along with the reporters of the Herald, telegraph and the Australian. I am reluctant to ever buy a paper, or watch the news again, for two reasons, one never to support these animals and two half the crap that was printed or went to air was completely innacurate with zero care for who it affected.
Most of you know, but dont ever believe what you read or hear.
I dont wish the events of the last few days on anyone.
Most of you know, but dont ever believe what you read or hear.
I dont wish the events of the last few days on anyone.
Thanks for the clarification Trojan - I'm mates with AA's main military writer and will gladly pass your feedback on to him.
Cheers
Cheers
Gobstream, good post.
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Clearly still hasn't much of a clue what he's talking about.
Typified by a recent "look at me in a 777 sim" where he talks incessantly about altitude in metres rather than what real pilots use in thar area - feet.
Flight recreated in 777 simulator - The West Australian
Sensationalism and claptrap at it's worst.
Typified by a recent "look at me in a 777 sim" where he talks incessantly about altitude in metres rather than what real pilots use in thar area - feet.
Flight recreated in 777 simulator - The West Australian
Sensationalism and claptrap at it's worst.
I caught a clip where he said the malaysian pilots were using non standard phrasologies. Then attempted to demonstrate the correct call and got that terrifically wrong. Aviation expert my foot!