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If you have done any IFR stuff in that area, you would know how much traffic actually uses CN as somewhere to just "overfly". Many student pilots on Nav's use CN as a waypoint. I think the radio calls are wise if there is room.
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So I take it KSA that you're an SFTC student? And again, I beg the question, with a place as busy as Camden is a call to say you're above the Zone necessary when you operate on the see and avoid principle as a VFR pilot? I expect IFR pilots to make these calls, but VFR its just frequency congestion! With 7 aircraft in the circuit, it is hard enough to just get in the base calls with the inbound calls, let alone Liberty Man calling to say he is going to fly over the top of you by more than 2000' 
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I'm with coke drinker on this one. As a regular CN attendee, I can attest as to how congested it often gets, especially since Hoxton Park closed. No need for non-required/essential calls on days where the circuit is already packed to the brim, unless they're crucial to safety and situational awareness of other pilots, which I don't think being overhead at 3600 really is. Better to let those guys inbound or joining the circuit get their calls in.
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Re SFTC
SFTC has recently requipt its fleet with new Liberty aircraft and a some new C172s. They probably have the most modern fleet at the airport. They have 2 good sims and some well presented 152s and a couple of duchesses i think. They have a number of different nationality students there. I believe that most of the issues with the Liberty that have been alluded to relate to a few landing incidents, so unfortunately a couple of students poor handling have created a problem that is getting more attention than it deserves. They generally have a good name a bankstown. Maybe you could do better, but you could definately do worse than training at SFTC. (No I am not a student or past student, just answering the question asked)
I couldn't agree more that being involved in not 1 but 2 fatal accidents within a few months, as well as making flight safety magazines accident page a full 3 times in a single month is in no way deserving of all the attention they're getting
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b_sta etc:
I agree with your point about non essential radio calls at CTAFs, however I would argue that an aeroplane overflying at 3600 is "in the vicinity" of the aerodrome, to quote the AIP. Especially given the NDB holding pattern is at 3700 and there is often glider activity to the South right up to the base of class C.
What I would say is non-essential is a call on every leg of the circuit in busy airspace such as CN. Just a call turning base with intentions or turning final with intentions is enough. YHOX had an entry in ERSA suggesting that pilots only make the minimum necessary broadcasts in the circuit for this reason. Not sure if CN has the same - haven't got an ERSA handy.
Furthermore, the old 'locals' who rant and rave on the radio at anyone who dares step out of line or talking about a game of touch footy with the inbound chopper pilots as I heard the other day really is just getting in the way!
I agree with your point about non essential radio calls at CTAFs, however I would argue that an aeroplane overflying at 3600 is "in the vicinity" of the aerodrome, to quote the AIP. Especially given the NDB holding pattern is at 3700 and there is often glider activity to the South right up to the base of class C.
What I would say is non-essential is a call on every leg of the circuit in busy airspace such as CN. Just a call turning base with intentions or turning final with intentions is enough. YHOX had an entry in ERSA suggesting that pilots only make the minimum necessary broadcasts in the circuit for this reason. Not sure if CN has the same - haven't got an ERSA handy.
Furthermore, the old 'locals' who rant and rave on the radio at anyone who dares step out of line or talking about a game of touch footy with the inbound chopper pilots as I heard the other day really is just getting in the way!
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Technically not in bankstown but in camden +1 for Air Combat Australia
Air Combat Australia | Training today, for the pilots of tomorrow
go speak to Reha Ekinci he'll look after you....
Air Combat Australia | Training today, for the pilots of tomorrow
go speak to Reha Ekinci he'll look after you....
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If you want some professional ( ex military ) non sausage factory style training then have a look at Red Baron:
Red Baron | Advanced Flight Training | Bankstown Airport Sydney
They are a bit more expensive that the likes of Basair etc but you get what you pay for i.e they DO NOT cut corners just to make a few extra dollars. You also get to learn on an Alpha / Robin which unlike some other training aircraft out there does not handle like a bus.
Red Baron | Advanced Flight Training | Bankstown Airport Sydney
They are a bit more expensive that the likes of Basair etc but you get what you pay for i.e they DO NOT cut corners just to make a few extra dollars. You also get to learn on an Alpha / Robin which unlike some other training aircraft out there does not handle like a bus.
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Hi Folks, 1st post for me so hope I'm not intruding...I'm looking at re-entering the instructing scene probably at BK on a part-time basis, Ive got aprx 700 instructing and aprx 3000TT...If anyone knows if any of the schools at BK are hiring I'd appreciate the tip-off...be good to know before I knock on doors...cheers