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Straight and Level
Climbs
Decents
Stalls
Turns
PFL
PSL
Circuits (flapless, engine out, normal)
They may ask you to do a side slip (not sure if that is still an optional manoeuvre)
Have a read of these:
http://casa.gov.au/manuals/regulate/fcl/form1023.pdf
http://casa.gov.au/manuals/regulate/fcl/form640.pdf
Climbs
Decents
Stalls
Turns
PFL
PSL
Circuits (flapless, engine out, normal)
They may ask you to do a side slip (not sure if that is still an optional manoeuvre)
Have a read of these:
http://casa.gov.au/manuals/regulate/fcl/form1023.pdf
http://casa.gov.au/manuals/regulate/fcl/form640.pdf
Last edited by coke drinker; 1st Dec 2008 at 00:18.
Not sure why you would be asking here?
Your Flying School/Instructor will cover all of that. They will not put you up for the test until they think you are ready.
Your Flying School/Instructor will cover all of that. They will not put you up for the test until they think you are ready.
Everything covered in the GFPT is on the back of the flight test form, i suggest you jump on the CASA website and download it.
Expect to be tested on everything you have covered in your training so far, from effects of controls through to advanced stalls.
Have fun
Expect to be tested on everything you have covered in your training so far, from effects of controls through to advanced stalls.
Have fun
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Have you started lessons yet?
I havn't done the GFPT yet but I have passed the BAK
If you have started lessons you probably got a syllabus and it goes throught it all there, what I like it that it tells you a marking criteria.
e.g, 30 degree turn (-/+5 deg) Thats just off the top of my head, but yeah. I'm sure you can find it at casa.
I havn't done the GFPT yet but I have passed the BAK
If you have started lessons you probably got a syllabus and it goes throught it all there, what I like it that it tells you a marking criteria.
e.g, 30 degree turn (-/+5 deg) Thats just off the top of my head, but yeah. I'm sure you can find it at casa.
GFPT is all about SAFETY. You don't have to be Chuck Yeager, but you have to be able to lookout, put the plane on the ground in one piece, GO AROUND where necessary!
Basically everything you have covered in your training to date can be tested in the GFPT, but some parts are optional, which ones are done will depend on your testing officer.
If you are unsure about something, ASK! e.g. he says "Show me a stall" then you could ask "do you want be to recover at the buzzer or after the stall?"
Try and relax, make sure you know your aircraft, privileges of GFPT and the Air Law you've been taught today as well. If you need more specific advice, then ask your instructor, or even another student you know who's recently done the GFPT about what they did in the test.
Good luck!
Basically everything you have covered in your training to date can be tested in the GFPT, but some parts are optional, which ones are done will depend on your testing officer.
If you are unsure about something, ASK! e.g. he says "Show me a stall" then you could ask "do you want be to recover at the buzzer or after the stall?"
Try and relax, make sure you know your aircraft, privileges of GFPT and the Air Law you've been taught today as well. If you need more specific advice, then ask your instructor, or even another student you know who's recently done the GFPT about what they did in the test.
Good luck!
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I'll be in the same boat shortly. Havn't done the area solo yet but I have been thinking about the GFPT. You dudes have educated me on the test, but im gonna have to ask some other sp's who have passed the test what happened, especialy when it's the same flying school.
Let us know how you go
Let us know how you go
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LambofGod...the school is not going to give you the variations in the test, it will be the testing officer. Until you know who you're testing officer is, you won't have a good answer. Its just like your driving test, you can be told about all the foibles of all of them, but until you know who you will have its just irrelevant information clogging your mind.
Has it really changed so much over the years since I did it?
I would have thought anything on the GFPT syllabus would be fair game. Its been a while, but my memory of my RPPL test (with infamous ex-Lufwaffe pilot John Bally) came about by surprise when I turned up at the flying school to do some solo practice and was nabbed. "So and so hasn't turned up for their test, you might as well do yours"! "Ahhhhh, OK"!
Paperwork and questions; calculate TO and Landing distance required ("That's the distance you have available to you"!).
TO; Climb out and track to training area; compass turns; steep turns; stalls (no flap no power, 20 flap 1800 rpm); gliding steep turns; forced landing (JB: "Ah, I do not know if we are alive or dead"!); circuit entry; flapless appr and landing; cross wind circuit and landing; finished off with a short field landing (Instructor's last words in my ear, "Mr Bally likes to see good use of power in the short field landing"); I gave him power alright - dragged it in on the prop from a couple of miles out, over the fence, stuck it on the end of the runway and pulled up before the end of the piano keys feeling pretty smug !!!!!!
Then my world came apart!
JB: "Who taught you to do za short field landing like that"?
Me: "Ahhhh, I guess my instructor did"!
JB: "No, no, no, zat was terrible. I told you that you had za runway length available that you verked out before. Zere was no need to brake so hard"!
Me (thinking to myself): "Yeah right, and you can stick your f*cking pilots licence where the sun doesn't shine"!
In the debrief, JB continued to berate my short-field landings to my instructor (who shall remain nameless!)
Nameless Instructor: "Ahh, I might have over emphasised the use of power in the short field landing, but I will have him sorted out for his next test"!
JB: "Oh no, za rest of his flying is very good - but he cannot do za short field landing. You must go up straight way and do za hour on za shortfield landing, zen I will give him za licence"!
So we did - and he did!
Za moral of za story? If your school is any good they shouldn't put you up for a test unless you are ready for it. Relax! Fly the aeroplane! ......... and the test will take care of itself!
Dr
I would have thought anything on the GFPT syllabus would be fair game. Its been a while, but my memory of my RPPL test (with infamous ex-Lufwaffe pilot John Bally) came about by surprise when I turned up at the flying school to do some solo practice and was nabbed. "So and so hasn't turned up for their test, you might as well do yours"! "Ahhhhh, OK"!
Paperwork and questions; calculate TO and Landing distance required ("That's the distance you have available to you"!).
TO; Climb out and track to training area; compass turns; steep turns; stalls (no flap no power, 20 flap 1800 rpm); gliding steep turns; forced landing (JB: "Ah, I do not know if we are alive or dead"!); circuit entry; flapless appr and landing; cross wind circuit and landing; finished off with a short field landing (Instructor's last words in my ear, "Mr Bally likes to see good use of power in the short field landing"); I gave him power alright - dragged it in on the prop from a couple of miles out, over the fence, stuck it on the end of the runway and pulled up before the end of the piano keys feeling pretty smug !!!!!!
Then my world came apart!
JB: "Who taught you to do za short field landing like that"?
Me: "Ahhhh, I guess my instructor did"!
JB: "No, no, no, zat was terrible. I told you that you had za runway length available that you verked out before. Zere was no need to brake so hard"!
Me (thinking to myself): "Yeah right, and you can stick your f*cking pilots licence where the sun doesn't shine"!
In the debrief, JB continued to berate my short-field landings to my instructor (who shall remain nameless!)
Nameless Instructor: "Ahh, I might have over emphasised the use of power in the short field landing, but I will have him sorted out for his next test"!
JB: "Oh no, za rest of his flying is very good - but he cannot do za short field landing. You must go up straight way and do za hour on za shortfield landing, zen I will give him za licence"!
So we did - and he did!
Za moral of za story? If your school is any good they shouldn't put you up for a test unless you are ready for it. Relax! Fly the aeroplane! ......... and the test will take care of itself!
Dr
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Just to add on to what coke drinker said, you may have to go under the hood for a bit and then recover the aircraft from the unusual attitude. Also not too sure if it is in wide practice but with me it was a landing on an unprepared surface to finish off the flight.
Good luck, it's nowhere near as hard as you anticipate it to be.
Good luck, it's nowhere near as hard as you anticipate it to be.
They may ask you to do a side slip (not sure if that is still an optional manoeuvre
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finished off with a short field landing (Instructor's last words in my ear, "Mr Bally likes to see good use of power in the short field landing
If the true "short field" landing was conducted today in light aircraft the stall warning device would be operating continuously on final approach and flare and I am sure CASA would not be too happy about that - nor the insurers. The student would also fail his GFPT if that happened.
Although the term is still used in the GA industry, it is a misnomer. A landing approach with the aim of arriving over the fence at the flight manual recommended IAS used for the landing performance tables is a normal landing - not a "short field."
Do you ever hear of a jet transport conducting a "short field" landing? I don't think so. Yet the airspeed used (manufacturer's flight manual) is the same basic principle as should be used in a Cessna. True "short field" landings are a thing of the past and rightly so.
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Originally Posted by Centaurus
Who is "they?" One hopes "they" don't ask you to demonstrate a sideslip in a high wing type like a Cessna with full flap down. When the lowered flap effects the airflow over the tailplane you may expect a severe and potentially dangerous bunt and if at low altitude it could be all over very quickly indeed. Read the POH.
Originally Posted by DH 200'
Just to add on to what coke drinker said, you may have to go under the hood for a bit and then recover the aircraft from the unusual attitude. Also not too sure if it is in wide practice but with me it was a landing on an unprepared surface to finish off the flight.
Good luck, it's nowhere near as hard as you anticipate it to be.
Good luck, it's nowhere near as hard as you anticipate it to be.