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Old 2nd Nov 2008, 22:57
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Windshear

Would you depart or make an approach into known windshear conditions?

After watching the proceedings at Wellington recently, I am interested in getting a consensus on this.

I guess windy Wellington is well known for the mechanical turbulence that occurs in certain conditions. But would you depart after another aircraft has reported that they encounted a windshear alert at low level.
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At Wellington, of course.
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I suffered a similar situation going into Melbourne the other night. The previous 2 jets went around due to undershoot shear on final. The tower notified me and I adjusted my approach accordingly and landed safely. I think it is more a case of Captains discretion but I wouldn't suggest it for low time pilots.
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Boeing actually says, if the presence of windshear is confirmed, delay takeoff or do not continue an approach.
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It has always been a grey area. Watch Chinese operators depart and they take off in absolutely horrendous weather regardless of the western perception of flight safety. They will bash through heavy weather where others will skirt around it. And yet they don't crash. Does this necessarily mean western pilots have been endued with with inner caution? Or are the Chinese pilots simply gung-ho and get away with it all the time.
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Airbus A330 FCOM is very clear - do not make an approach into known or suspected windshear.

Often windshear is reported by pilots that is not windshear. 15 knots fluctuation in speed or greater is the definition of windshear. Here in HKG, pilots will often report things such as "windshear minus 10 knots". This info is valuable and should be reported but it does not constitute windshear from an FCOM point of view.

Texan pilot, "I adjusted my approach accordingly and landed safely."

I dont know the actual conditions in MEL the night you refer to. However, in the presence of serious windshear conditions, you did not land "safely". You landed "luckily", as have I on many occasions.

Tee Emm, not sure where you spend most of your time flying, but I assure you, in HKG, some of the most "interesting" arrivals in windshear are made by the 2 big local players. You dont have to be Chinese to be stoopid.
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"Often windshear is reported by pilots that is not windshear"

Tends to be case here in Wlg, the tower reports windshear even when there has been no actual reports, but conditions are such that there could be windshear.
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Without sounding too negative, but what's the worst that could happen by continuing?

A roll to the inverted at too slow and too low an altitude to recover !!

If in doubt, go around !!
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There is not much positive about the worst thing that can happen to you by flying into known windshear. 300+ lives lost and if you are lucky yours included to evade the rest of your life spent in a prison thinking about the faithful decision you have made by getting your airplane on the ground.
There has been too many lives lost due to windshear, treat it with respect!
Go Around!!!.. Or Go Somewhere Else!!!

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