Jumpseating?
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A few weeks ago I managed to get a jumpseat ride from start engines to stop engines in a Brasilia with a regional airline in Australia. However i did know the captain as he comes through my airport almost daily. The only requirement was for me to display my ASIC and the captain and company's approval.
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Ahhh I remember the good old days when we were on route to LAX and the captain asked if any small children (accompanied by parents obviously) would like too see his office. That was the captain asking PAX
It is unbelievable! It is sad and pathetic to watch, and an absolute insult to be a participant in. What the f*** have we become? We have been royally conned, believe me.
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I got invited to jumpseat on a regional the other week. Had uniform on and ASIC as had just done a ferry to the aerodrome. They heard me follow them in on CTAF and the hostie came and got me from my seat before engine start. Didn't even have to ask
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I remember back in 1990 on Syd to Lax as a youngster heading up to first class in the 747 and having a look through the cockpit somewhere over the ocean. I was allowed to do that along with the other 30 off people in my school group, but when I sat in first class for a second to see what the seat was like I was promptly told by the hostie that I hadn't paid to sit in that seat!
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Sorry fighterpilot,
There is a law, preventing access to the flight deck in flight except to a few authorised persons.
Aviation transport Security Act 4.67 Security of flight crew compartment.
(3) If the aircraft has a cockpit door, the door must remain locked
from the time the aircraft's passenger doors are closed and secured
for departure until they are unlocked to allow the passengers
to disembark, except:
(a) when necessary to allow a person to enter or leave the
cockpit ;or
(b) when otherwise necessary for safety reasons
(4) A person must not be allowed to enter the cockpit after the aircraft
has taken off unless:
(a) he or she is authorised to do so by the aircraft's pilot in
command or the aircraft's operator and:
(i) is a member of the aircraft's crew; or
(ii) is an employee of the aircraft's operator; or
(iii) is authorised or required by the Civil Aviation
Regulations 1988 or the Civil Aviation Safety
Regulations 1988 to enter the cockpit;and
(b) he or she holds appropriate identification as a person
referred to in paragraph (a)
Some airlines wrongly believe they can circumvent these regs by spiriting persons aboard and having them remain on the flight deck for the entire time from doors closed to doors open. Sorry, wrong they are neither authorised or required to be there and a previous Minister of aviation has ruled that that is the intent of the Act.
So to do otherwise is in breach of the Act and is an offence of strict liability.
That means if you're caught = large fine plus you're guilty of said offence until you can prove yourself innocent in a Court of law.
Hope that helps
There is a law, preventing access to the flight deck in flight except to a few authorised persons.
Aviation transport Security Act 4.67 Security of flight crew compartment.
(3) If the aircraft has a cockpit door, the door must remain locked
from the time the aircraft's passenger doors are closed and secured
for departure until they are unlocked to allow the passengers
to disembark, except:
(a) when necessary to allow a person to enter or leave the
cockpit ;or
(b) when otherwise necessary for safety reasons
(4) A person must not be allowed to enter the cockpit after the aircraft
has taken off unless:
(a) he or she is authorised to do so by the aircraft's pilot in
command or the aircraft's operator and:
(i) is a member of the aircraft's crew; or
(ii) is an employee of the aircraft's operator; or
(iii) is authorised or required by the Civil Aviation
Regulations 1988 or the Civil Aviation Safety
Regulations 1988 to enter the cockpit;and
(b) he or she holds appropriate identification as a person
referred to in paragraph (a)
Some airlines wrongly believe they can circumvent these regs by spiriting persons aboard and having them remain on the flight deck for the entire time from doors closed to doors open. Sorry, wrong they are neither authorised or required to be there and a previous Minister of aviation has ruled that that is the intent of the Act.
So to do otherwise is in breach of the Act and is an offence of strict liability.
That means if you're caught = large fine plus you're guilty of said offence until you can prove yourself innocent in a Court of law.
Hope that helps
Thanks guys for your input
Looks like ill just try to get an upgrade to premium economy on VB with a flash of my ASIC, and peer in the cockpit door for the entire flight!
I'll sneak on up after the flight
Looks like ill just try to get an upgrade to premium economy on VB with a flash of my ASIC, and peer in the cockpit door for the entire flight!
I'll sneak on up after the flight
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It's still pretty good in NZ (mostly with Mt Chook and AirNSN). It helps if you've got an airport ID but a valid licence should do the trick. Ask as you enter the cabin. They can't let you in/out when the aircraft is moving.
Ahhh I remember the good old days when we were on route to LAX and the captain asked if any small children (accompanied by parents obviously) would like too see his office. That was the captain asking PAX
Captain Oveur: You ever been in a cockpit before?
Joey: No sir, I've never been up in a plane before.
Captain Oveur: You ever seen a grown man naked?