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Old 12th Nov 2008, 09:57
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"1. They could cary up to 3 200 Ltr drums "

That is a lot of gas, am I picturing it correctly? I think of 44gal drums being 200ltr, can you really fit three of those in a cessna?
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Old 12th Nov 2008, 10:16
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The Airvan has a payload of about 500kg with 200L of fuel on board excluding pilot and endurance for a two hour flight, fixed/variable reserve and the little extra just in case worked in.

600L of Avgas = 432kg
600L of Avtur = 474kg

A 210/206/207 will lug that no dramas as well BUT it's much easier getting the seats out, the freight in and the cargo nets secured in the Airvan!
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600L of Avgas = 432kg
600L of Avtur = 474kg

A 210/206/207 will lug that no dramas as well BUT it's much easier getting the seats out, the freight in and the cargo nets secured in the Airvan!
Wow, thanks GG, I have a few hundred hours in the a/c you describe but was never asked to carry anything like that (quite glad really!) Do you have to use load spreaders on the floor or is that not a problem?
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Loads in 210's

G'Day 'Framer',

I have carried large metal objects in a 210 - one was a rear axle/diff for a truck at a remote location.

We spread the load with the use of a 5 ply flooring 'cutout'.
The cutouts left the tie down hooks free to use.
That also protected the carpet/upholstery etc.
We also used to fit plastic / canvas protectors to the upholstery etc when carrying some SLF...

Airmanship....and self preservation.
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Old 15th Nov 2008, 01:23
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Didn't say i had done it, just saying it can

Not my cup of tea having a couple of hundred Litres overhead, and another 3/4 of a tonne behind me!

Now if we are talking about red cans, done that a few times
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Old 15th Nov 2008, 03:21
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Carried plenty of green cans around in the 210 but I didn't have the DG's (detestable goods) certificate required for red cans.
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What a load of dribble, i contacted i guy i know at the factory and he said what you described is completly untrue and that there have never been any problems with sealant coming off spars and into the fuel system causing fuel system blockage. In fact he report that there have been no reported cases of fuel starvation.
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Say again!......
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mach082 said some early Gippsland Aeronautics GA8 Airvans have had problems with the sealant coming off the spars and blocking the fuel system.

What a load of dribble, i contacted i guy i know at the factory and he said what you described is completly untrue and that there have never been any problems with sealant coming off spars and into the fuel system causing fuel system blockage. In fact he report that there have been no reported cases of fuel starvation.
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Old 5th Dec 2008, 11:55
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Fuel is normally carried in 20l jerry cans in AL.
Is that legal under the DG regs? Drum fuel is OK on cargo only flights if they're sealed etc but in jerry cans? I wouldn't have thought that would have made the grade under the packaging requirements? I would be somewhat apprehensive if someone wanted to throw jerry cans full of fuel on my aircraft.
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Yes it is. Cargo only flights with properly loaded and sealed jerry cans. In the wet there is no other way to transport fuel. Mostly it is diesel.
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mach082 said some early Gippsland Aeronautics GA8 Airvans have had problems with the sealant coming off the spars and blocking the fuel system.

What a load of dribble, i contacted i guy i know at the factory and he said what you described is completly untrue and that there have never been any problems with sealant coming off spars and into the fuel system causing fuel system blockage. In fact he report that there have been no reported cases of fuel starvation.
Wasn't sealant, was metal shavings from the wing spar blocking fuel filters. Happened to a Kimberley Airvan operator making a forced landing on a highway a few seasons ago

We were all prepped about it before flying one!

The spiel was something like if you know you have plenty of fuel and the fuel guages agree, if the low fuel lights come on shortly followed by the low sump light, you have 11 minutes, slow for best endurance and land immediately.
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