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Old 4th Oct 2008, 04:25
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which position should I take?

hey guys and girls,

ive been an airvan first officer now for 2 years and i've been asked by my company to take command on a c182RG in another 6 months or if i stay as a first officer on the ga8 for another year I'll eventually get my command. I'm now confused as I don't know whether or not I should take the command position or just wait it out because I know that the airlines like guys with multi-crew experience. I've now got about 1200 hours with about 312.3 command. I was just wondering if anybody has taken this same path before, and if you could offer any advice it would be very much appreciated.
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Well mate that all depends on whether your great company will expect you to pay out the cost of you bond on the airvan or not. The 182 is also a pretty crazy aircraft. I dont know if 1200 hours is really enough to take command of one. But the kids these days seem to be doing ok. Make sure you get a good training captain on the 182 aswell. I know a few crusty old 182 checkies that love grilling you airvan fo's. They'll make your life hell for that circuit.
Goodluck.
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please tell me this is a windup
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What do you mean? Are you a captain on the piper cub and if you are how long did it take you to get your command?

Thanks in advance.
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"I dont know if 1200 hours is really enough to take command of one"

LOL
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I know thats what my chief pilot says... I just don't get why there are people out there with 200 hours with captaincy on 210's, I mean they even have to remember to put the wheels up and down... I guess that this just proves how bad the pilot shortage is...
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Cmon guys, it's an RG, one needs some time up before one tackles the complex types.
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i dont put the wheels up on my 210, its a clear waste of electrons
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the wheels go up on a 210 ????

is this some fancy new mod?
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I'm not to sure, I'm not endorsed. The 210 drivers don't really talk to me but they did let me clean the windscreen once... those were the days
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All the other replies have been less than helpful to you 210........

I, on the other hand, shall assume you have a genuine question, and to help you out, I would suggest you should "assume" the position to accomodate a pineapple.
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Forget the C182 and the Airvan 210, I can get you a direct entry command on the latest high tech model of the 'Cherokee six', it is of course going to cost you to fly this wonderful aircraft that is older than you...
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Hey 210

Sorry to say but your chief pilot treat you like a mushroom. Keep you in the dark and feed you with bull****.
When i started flying it took me 15 hours to earn "captaincy" of the mighty Tomahawk and 200 hours later i was Captain of a PA-31 Chieftain.
But than again my middle name is "FIGJAM"
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Hey c210guy

The c182 is a great aircraft, but its only single engine and single pilot. I think you'd be much better off staying on the airvan and logging the twin hours (even though only as f/o) and waiting for the upgrade.

But thats just what i'd do.

Cheers,

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What a tough decision for a young pilot to make!

1) Keep racking up those valuable SE piston F/O hours on the GA8 Airvan, or
2) Step up to the plate an try for "Command" on the mightly C182RG.

which position should I take?


Something different to the one you are currently in! ....... errrrr, that's the one where your draws are down around your feet and your hands are tightly gripping your ankles.

Rat


PS: I had 150 hrs TOTAL when I made "Captain" on a C210 - but I guess I was something of a progidy!
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It's a pretty big step up to command on the C182, especially the RG. It's really a down to you mate. You may need to ask yourself the following questions in addition to many others:

1. Do I have what it takes for Captaincy on the C182RG?
2. Do I have the time and committment to study the complexity of the 182RG?
3. How well do I know the SOPs?
4. I'm I really ready?

As 25 was saying, the checkies do love grilling the Airvan efos, and it's not easy. You probably have at least another 2 or 3 years left on your Airvan bond, so you will need to consider the extra bond committment on the 182. An opportunity may come along in the mean time for a command on the C206 or even a C210 in a year or 2. I have heard of this happening recently.

Tough decision, but it's great that you have such a hard choice to make! I would have loved to have been in your shoes at 1200 hours! I was only an SO on the C152 at 1200 hours.

My, how things have changed!

Hope this helps and Good luck 210, it sounds as if your career is going along at full steam!
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you have got to be taking the piss
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damn snoop dogg, i wish i was as lucky as you being SO on a 172

for 1500hrs i was SO on a 152 doing charter ops
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Before I even read the thread I was going to suggest taking the Foetal position. I stick by my initial thoughts. With that many hours required to be the captain of a 182RG I myself would be rolled up in the foetal position crying myself to sleep every night.

Unless your company is flying around the Queen or something, it seems a little over the top.
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What exactly does an Airvan F/O do? Pass out the sangers?

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