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Old 9th Sep 2008, 13:23
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Passenger Oxy mask demo - one tug or two?

Why, then, do cc always use a double tug motion when they do the safety briefing? You've all seen them do it, one hand holding the tube up to the ceiling, the other pulling the mask down in a 'tug-tug' motion.

That visual cue suggests having to tug at the mask, pulling it harder than the force that we know will in fact be enough. So, us canned goods in the back are being told one thing, but being shown another.
This was lifted from Tech Log but raises a most interesting point. Every cabin oxy mask demo I have seen includes the FA doing the double tug as described above. Virgin Blue and Qantas note. Yet a double tug is not needed. Time for airline safety departments to review the demo policy?
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The second tug is "To be sure"

This procedure was adopted from Air Lingus procedures manual.
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Any more than two tugs and it's a ----.
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One tug is procedural. Two tugs is titillation. Three tugs and the passengers request cigarettes.

There'll be a memo from Geoff Dixon now directing that two tugs is a waste of resources when only half a tug is the budgetted requirement.
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i think you'll find that the 2 tugs are for emphasis and nothing more
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Time for airline safety departments to review the demo policy?
Are you serious? We are briefing the multitudes here, not training test pilots.

There are only a very few simple points a pax needs to understand about donning an O2 mask.

The demo is given to a bunch of largely disinterested and inattentive folk of varying degrees of comprehension and abilities.

If perchance you have one or two pax with Sherlock Holmes-like powers of observation, then two pulls will have the same result as one, with no likelihood of damage.
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Virgin Blue's procedure during the demo is for 'one sharp pull downward'...
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Don't really know why they bother anyway.
It all seems like a waste of Oxy to me. Having a bunch of pax CONCIOUS following a deprex is probably the last thing the CC need (as long as CC have O2) and probly the last thing the pax need as well.

Let's face it, if the skipper is on the ball, he/she can get the machine down below 20,000 feet in under three minutes.
Hardly a serious issue and possibly kinder for pax to pass out than be faced with the noise and sensation of a VNE descent to richer O2 climes.

Once below 20,000 most can breath to keep the body going. OK, they might not be too brilliant, but we're not asking them to come up with Fermat's last theorom. just stay quiet and breath the best one can.
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