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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 02:35
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Remember, OZ aviation is full of the most honest helpful altruistic people you will ever meet in a lifetime
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 05:36
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NEVER call a flight nurse Candy Pants.
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 07:44
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There is a definate fuel theme here and this should be the first priority of EVERY flight.

It has to be the first item on a long check list that is carefully considered and calculated, and then re checked, as it is the one factor that is absolute.

FUEL FUEL FUEL first priority!
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 08:54
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Always carry 10 minutes of fuel "for Mum".

Plan ahead - It's far better to be ten minutes ahead of your aircraft than ten minutes behind!
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 09:03
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Don't eat yellow snow......(rare in Oz I know)

Remember to iron the creases correctly in your shirt..nothing looks more unprofessional than train tracks on your sleeve.

Push forward..houses get bigger
Pull Back....houses get smaller..disappear..then get bigger again

Most important bit of advice given to me..."everyday is a learning day, when you stop learning, you stop aviating"
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 09:35
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Be good to your Mother!

Oh, and ignore that little voice in the back of your head.

You know! The one that says:

You can sneak through there!
Another 100' and you'll break out!
You can turn around if it looks too bad!
Ya got heaps of runway there!
It'll fly OK a bit overweight!
That fuel guage always reads low!
Its only light icing!
The last guy had no trouble with it!
She's not all that ugly!

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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 09:38
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I like the Candy Pants comment
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 10:30
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Someone once said to me:

You cant have too much fuel, unless you are on fire.

and

Air above you, runway behind you and fuel left in the bowser are all useless when the engine stops.
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 10:45
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My dear old dad always kept on at me with his basic flying motto:-

You need 3 things in flying, airspeed, altitude and ideas. You can get by with a temporary shortage of 1 for a little while, but be short of more than 1 and you're screwed.
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 12:38
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Mustafagander, yeah I like that one too, I heard it a bit different but it's still good.

" Airspeed, Altitude , Skill, at all times you must have at least two of these things"

....I rarely have the third one so I make sure I have the first two .
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 13:05
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Checklists

Honour and obey these pesky little things - they can save your day if you pay attention to them.

Too often the green CPL ends up in tour jobs where the pressure is on to do things quickly and god forbid that you should scare your passengers by referring to a checklist!!!! " Doesn't s/he know how to fly this plane yet???" says one anxious tourist to another as they taxi along at Ayers or Kunners or Broome.

I got into a bad habit of trying to do all my checklists from memory - peer pressure, company pressure. Sure when you are close to the ground - after take-off and pre-landing type checks - the checklists must be operated from memory, but otherwise get the checklist out and use it in a challenge/response type mode, ie do everything from memory then use the cxlist afterwards as a cross check.

Avoid the trap of going through the checklist in a rote fashion - lookout for your brain going through the cxlist mnemonic, eg BUMFISCH (or whatever your version is), without anything being actioned!! Look at the accident investigator's database for unintentional wheels-up landings - lots of pilots have done 'gutsers' despite them possibly/probably having gone through their checklist but not actioning the items.

Remember there are only 2 types of pilots. There are those who have landed with their wheels up, and there are those who are going to land with them up. Strive always to remain in the former group!!
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 13:24
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Well thanks to all who have replied so far, definitely a big fuel theme as has been pointed out and is definitely something i'll try and always keep in mind!!

Thanks pithblot...i'll definitely try to keep that one in mind!!

I'm also quite happy to see it has actually become a sticky! Hopefully we'll get a lot of useful advice put into here, perhaps people could try to keep in mind after they have a fudge up of their own!!

Thanks to all again and lets keep'em rolling in!!

P.s. Does anyone know a good way to cook a burger or some such on a carby? i wrote it as a joke but i'm actually interested to hear if anyones tried it yet!!!
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 13:25
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Remember there are only 2 types of pilots. There are those who have landed with their wheels up, and there are those who are going to land with them up. Strive always to remain in the former group!!
Three types Captsumday...

* Those who've done a wheels up
* Those who are going to do a wheels up
* Those who follow the checklist
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 13:29
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P.s. Does anyone know a good way to cook a burger or some such on a carby? i wrote it as a joke but i'm actually interested to hear if anyones tried it yet!!!
Surely human factors has taught you to eat healthy? Much less oil on your burger cooking with a turbine than a piston, no combustion products in the oil either.
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 20:07
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P.s. Does anyone know a good way to cook a burger or some such on a carby? i wrote it as a joke but i'm actually interested to hear if anyones tried it yet!!!
Maybe not a burger, but a wise man once taught me the old trick of buying a sausage roll in the morning, then later on around the mail run (obviously works better on sunny days) stick that sucker up on the black dash to warm up. Give it about 20-30mins, and wallaa, you've got yourself a warm sausage roll, .

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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 22:10
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I'd go for three types of pilots:
Those who've done a wheels up
Those who are going to do a wheels up
Those who use the checklist correctly and religeously

Using a checklist (mental or written) without checking and challenging the actions WILL one day result in an undesired aircraft state - and if it's the gear it will be expensive.

Do not use a checklist as a to do list - develop a flow pattern to set everything up, and once that is done do your checklist. If you find you have to change something when doing the checklist it tells you that the flow setup has been done incorrectly - learn from it. IMO a good checklist only covers the killer items, however if you work for an operator USE the system that they provide.

PS I fit the first category thousands of times but I would hope so as I fly amphibious floatplanes! (One of the biggest errors we can make is wheels down on water - probable loss of aircraft and potential drownings. A wheels up on land only requires float repairs and a resume.)
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Old 23rd Jul 2008, 00:45
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Get your ATPL subjects done - even if you think you're ages away from having the required hours.
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Old 23rd Jul 2008, 01:02
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Habits

When you see a runway in front of you---check wheels. Always, no matter what you are flying. Make it a habit.

Habits will save you on the day the checklist fails.

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Old 23rd Jul 2008, 02:36
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Hey Bushy - It's the habit of the rabbit that keeps the turtle fertile.

Jet A - I did my old SCPL theory in early 1980. I am in the process of using them to get into an airline now. My SCPL was automatically changed into an ATPL in ?1998 when I got my perpetual licence and I have never even been asked if I did the new subjects or the old system of 4 subjects.

Have I opened a can of worms?
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Old 23rd Jul 2008, 03:27
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On your big day off.....drive down to local river, and......

Wrap your fillet of fresh caught barra in al-foil, parcel style, suitably garnished with salt, pepper, tomato and onion - optional.

Place carefully on 'inside' section of exhaust manifold of the trusty old 'XW' or whatever.

Drive for about 20 mins / 30 kms.

Stop for a 'nature break' - and turn al-foil parcel over.

Drive for another 20 mins / 30kms.

Pull up under suitable tree / by suitable shady spot, carefully retrieve parcel, taking care not to spill juices / contents.
Serve with freshly opened 'cold can' from esky and enjoy!

Its OK!!!

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