The big lie - we train airline pilots.

[mr.tos]

You don't want to know what they paid either for Fast Track. It's scary.

80k> for CPL, NVFR
Make it 90k> if u want an IREX

they claim to give you your CPL in 18 weeks!

then straight to an airline

think not

[the wizard of auz]

I have heard that the current Fast track isn't so fast. they don't have aircraft, got their shirts all twisted when students wanted to fly with the training contractors aircraft, because the ultralights were all busted, and pulled out of that establishment. went off down the road and the fast tracking got even slower. even heard of people having to seek legal help to recover funds due to contractual breaches, IE, not getting training and not being Fast tracked. I would be a little careful of people advertising that sort of training.

[Centaurus]

and a consumer can expect a top qualified pilot

If the consumer (aka passenger) expects a top qualified pilot then how come the second in command of many European and Asian large airliners may have as low as 500 hours total time of which 80 hours might in command and that's on a C172. Not exactly "top qualified."

[mostlytossas]

Beer Bong, They used to only take overseas students but that changed a couple of years or so ago. Now anyone with the $'s can get in, plus they have a second operation in operation where they also do,ppl and cpl on a part time learning basis just like most flying schools.

[QFcaptain]

"Beer Bong, They used to only take overseas students but that changed a couple of years or so ago. Now anyone with the $'s can get in, plus they have a second operation in operation where they also do,ppl and cpl on a part time learning basis just like most flying schools."


Incorrect.

[Islander Jock]

Reportedly one of the poor students sucked into FT suffered a medical condition that left him grounded for the forseeable future. Went to silver tongued FT operator and informed him. Response was unbelievable - "You shouldn't have said anything about it".
Then tried to hold the student to his contract which as has been pointed out above, is like a very matured piece of Swiss cheese - on the nose and full of holes.
Wiz summed up their current situation pretty well. Last seen the students were studying in the cafe of RACWA.
I feel real sorry for the studes, they had a big juicy carrot dangled in front of them - and took it.

[tubby one]

QF Captain - agree. The big one does only 'airline' training, and has done so for over 20 years. The offsider has been there for over 10 years and has never claimed to train 'airline pilot' and that is still the case:

The ****** is a non-residential pilot training school. It was opened in 1996 to provide recreational and “self improver” type training to local and international students, and offers quality training at highly competitive prices. Learning can be undertaken at a rate suitable to the individual with all the flexibility that this affords. The ****** can provide approved training courses for most Australian Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) Licences & Ratings including a Commercial Pilot Licence and Command Instrument Rating.
The ****** operates 7 days a week at its Parafield Airport site. It is equipped with its own lecture and briefing rooms, reception, kitchen facilities, toilets and shower, flight planning and meteorological services. Our aircraft and simulators are all first class and are subject to strict maintenance and servicing schedules.
There is also a Library (adjacent on the airfield to our parent organization ) which is available to ****** students. The Library offers a wide range of aviation texts, magazines, journals, videos, DVD’s, reference collections, airband scanners, etc.



And before anyone asks - NO I do not work for either operator

[mostlytossas]

Ofcourse what you are saying is a bit like claiming Jetstar is nothing to do with Qantas!

[tubby one]

true - but *star does not claim to offer the same level of 'service' as Q, and the same applies in this instance. It is also similar to the Coles-Myers link, you would not expect to get the same product from both.

[Downburst]

Really Plastic Fantastic is right, at least that is how I got into an airline (in Europe) in the first place. However, not all airlines run their own schools.

[Downburst]

The big Airline Pilot training con

Many flying school offer Airline Pilot Training Courses whilst they just train people to a CPL with the Australian ATPL theory. The ATPL part is often contracted out to Len Sales at the UNSW or Gavin Secombe because the so called "Airline Pilot Training Schools" can't even teach that part of the bargain. However, I must admit that, looking at the web presentation, most offer Professional Pilot Training as a headline but they then offer some airline pilot course as small print. I only found one who buntly offers am Airline Pilot Course as the main headline and that is a place called Proflite in Bankstown. I wonder if they have the resources to make that offer? Last time I flew into Bankstown they were in a very small building.