I Love Dick Smith (not in a swappin' spit way)
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I Love Dick Smith (not in a swappin' spit way)
It is with a massive red face that I resurrect the en-rooter handle, but I just had to express my gratitude to Dick in reference to his ATC's are underpaid comments.
It's time to reflect on Dicks massive contributions to aviation.................
Thanks Dick, if I get at least 2% more than CPI in the first year of the next EBA I will donate to your favourite charity $500.00 (genuine offer).
Any other ATC's willing to match?
It's time to reflect on Dicks massive contributions to aviation.................
Thanks Dick, if I get at least 2% more than CPI in the first year of the next EBA I will donate to your favourite charity $500.00 (genuine offer).
Any other ATC's willing to match?
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And what about the low level ADSB.......any chance he can turn that around?
Talking to a famous.....well infamous ATC'er last night and he was on the rant also about why the heck this has not been done. Shortly due no other option the radar heads will need to be replaced, and the justification for moving to a better system with more coverage for regional RPT will be lost for another 25 years.
Sorry for the thread drift.....but one win could lead to another!
J
Talking to a famous.....well infamous ATC'er last night and he was on the rant also about why the heck this has not been done. Shortly due no other option the radar heads will need to be replaced, and the justification for moving to a better system with more coverage for regional RPT will be lost for another 25 years.
Sorry for the thread drift.....but one win could lead to another!
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Any other ATC's willing to match?
Dick guarantees us a pay rise and you can't spread the wealth? At least Dick does
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Not that we're tightarses, just that we're disappointed you didn't leave that handle retired where it should be. Piss off back to your abyss you antagonist. Let's see how long you stay out of retirement. Bet you can't help yourself.
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Dick guarantees us a pay rise and you can't spread the wealth? At least Dick does
Is that what you mean?
Let us keep in mind how Dick operates. If you read the rest of the article, you clearly see that he is using the example not for ATC benefit (but may be a by product) but for his own agenda of having Avalon Tower staffed.
Don't fall into the trap of 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend'
Don't fall into the trap of 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend'
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Not that we're tightarses
just that we're disappointed you didn't leave that handle retired where it should be
Piss off back to your abyss you antagonist
I TOLD YOU SO (Just gettin' in early mate)
Let's see how long you stay out of retirement. Bet you can't help yourself.
I'll match you
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Welcome back Scurv
Thanks lefty
C'mon Dick, get into those offices in cantberra and do some lobbying for us poor ATC folk There's now a gorilla on this.
320, keep spreadin the lurv, the world needs more pilots I hear?
Thanks lefty
C'mon Dick, get into those offices in cantberra and do some lobbying for us poor ATC folk There's now a gorilla on this.
320, keep spreadin the lurv, the world needs more pilots I hear?
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Rooter,
If we get 2% above CPI as you suggest, I'll donate $1k to charity of my choice (prob RFDS). You know who I am because I made myself known to you. Pity the courtesy hasn't gone the other way.
Done one AD in three months (from memory), probably longer, and No AD/COS since commencement of negotiations and been pretty vocal to those around me about it.
Come and see me, I'll put the cheque in your hands!
If we get 2% above CPI as you suggest, I'll donate $1k to charity of my choice (prob RFDS). You know who I am because I made myself known to you. Pity the courtesy hasn't gone the other way.
Done one AD in three months (from memory), probably longer, and No AD/COS since commencement of negotiations and been pretty vocal to those around me about it.
Come and see me, I'll put the cheque in your hands!
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I'm not prepared to believe that anything Dick says will contribute to our payrise. CPI+2%, bah humbug! They know they need to anti up more than that.
Ultimately it will be about your ability to stand a picket line or at least your intention to do so.
Whilst Dick can tinker at the edges (in the media), he knows without more ATCs there is no airspace reform cause his model needs more; even if he won't admit that publicly.
What is Dick's agenda, well only Dick will know that? But it's got little to do with getting ATCs a payrise. I suspect 'heaping it' on the current CEO has more to do with it than help us poor ATCs; apparently its not the greatest relationship.
As for charities, I contribute consistently to charities with the money I can spare from time to time, throughout the year. I'm not prepared to "lump sum" something which in essence has no meaning. This doesn't mean I'm a tight arse, it means I don't want to play your little game.
I'm sure Dick is well aware that the "Evil Empire" is taking some $7M more (about 11% more) per month in revenue than they did last year, which makes their scheduled profit to be as good as a bank on asset ratio. Watch the capital expenditure "brought forward" to offset (hide) the massive profits.
It's outrageous to then claim inability to pay; in line with the governments 'enterprise framework'; one would have thought that was demonstrated productivity in line with that document.
Ultimately it will be about your ability to stand a picket line or at least your intention to do so.
Whilst Dick can tinker at the edges (in the media), he knows without more ATCs there is no airspace reform cause his model needs more; even if he won't admit that publicly.
What is Dick's agenda, well only Dick will know that? But it's got little to do with getting ATCs a payrise. I suspect 'heaping it' on the current CEO has more to do with it than help us poor ATCs; apparently its not the greatest relationship.
As for charities, I contribute consistently to charities with the money I can spare from time to time, throughout the year. I'm not prepared to "lump sum" something which in essence has no meaning. This doesn't mean I'm a tight arse, it means I don't want to play your little game.
I'm sure Dick is well aware that the "Evil Empire" is taking some $7M more (about 11% more) per month in revenue than they did last year, which makes their scheduled profit to be as good as a bank on asset ratio. Watch the capital expenditure "brought forward" to offset (hide) the massive profits.
It's outrageous to then claim inability to pay; in line with the governments 'enterprise framework'; one would have thought that was demonstrated productivity in line with that document.
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I'm with the pirate, I donate what I can now, to what I believe will do the greatest good. I also don't want to play your little game. I also have a moral radar that doesn't see Dick as the 'Messiah' rather more as a 'very naughty boy'.
In the wash up it is the ATC's committment to a 'bloody good payrise' as basically promised by TFN than anything Dick could achieve.
In the wash up it is the ATC's committment to a 'bloody good payrise' as basically promised by TFN than anything Dick could achieve.
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You know who I am because I made myself known to you. Pity the courtesy hasn't gone the other way.
I'll donate $1k to charity of my choice (prob RFDS).
I've got one pledge so far and between us all we're donating 2 and a half gorillas so far.
They know they need to anti up more than that.
Ultimately it will be about your ability to stand a picket line or at least your intention to do so.
As for charities, I contribute consistently to charities with the money I can spare from time to time, throughout the year. I'm not prepared to "lump sum" something which in essence has no meaning.
I'm with the pirate, I donate what I can now, to what I believe will do the greatest good. I also don't want to play your little game.
I also have a moral radar that doesn't see Dick as the 'Messiah' rather more as a 'very naughty boy'.
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Rooter,
I'm a bit lost? You seem to hate all ATC's, yet you are one. I am the first to admit that most are soft, but 1/3 did vote "no" last time so give them a bit of credit. This is my 4th EBA. I have no illusions about what to expect.
My $1k offer has nothing to do with Dick's involvement, but rather my lack of optimism in ATC's making enough noise (in fact I'll double my offer if we get what's in the Vision Document). Surely you don't think that Dick won't want his pound of flesh in return?
Are you a member of the union? Will you stand the line if required come 21/12?
I'm a bit lost? You seem to hate all ATC's, yet you are one. I am the first to admit that most are soft, but 1/3 did vote "no" last time so give them a bit of credit. This is my 4th EBA. I have no illusions about what to expect.
My $1k offer has nothing to do with Dick's involvement, but rather my lack of optimism in ATC's making enough noise (in fact I'll double my offer if we get what's in the Vision Document). Surely you don't think that Dick won't want his pound of flesh in return?
Are you a member of the union? Will you stand the line if required come 21/12?