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Old 22nd May 2008, 12:35
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So let me understand this correctly BB. If given a choice between (say) QF cadetship and REX, skippers, etc you wouldn't choose QF?
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Old 23rd May 2008, 01:14
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so realistically overall even though you save 30k doing sharp, you are still better with qantas? even though you are not contracted to work for them afterwards? or is the placement guaranteed?

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Old 23rd May 2008, 10:17
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Starting out,

Sharp and Rex? Do yourself a favour and forget about these options.

If you can get your bum on a seat at QF the 30k will be last thing on your mind.

There really isn't a comparison mate.

If fuel keeps going up or there is a downturn where do you want to be?
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Old 23rd May 2008, 10:19
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realistically wanting to be in the safest position possible, but saying that i know there is the "easy" way to get there, but saying that how much fight really happens when it comes to the placement is it first come first serve or do they address it as you go through training those who learn faster get the better jobs? or is there just a partially random system to it all?

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Old 24th May 2008, 07:48
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startingout, you say that you have the interview on monday for the assoc deg cadetship. I am keen on the cadetship as well although, when i look at the selection schedule in the QF website it hasn't been updated for application this year, just wondering when did you submit your application!?

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Old 24th May 2008, 07:50
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submitted last year, sat the psych test then thats all i did, after that just got a call randomly saying are you interested....
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Old 24th May 2008, 09:02
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How much difference is there now between a QF and VB 737 F/O in terms of pay? About $10 grand.
I'd like to see a VB F/O tell me he's getting within $10 grand of QF F/O B737 salary of $140K including allowances and excluding super.

B737 F/Os in QF will be earning increases in excess of 5% over the next few years under the current EBA as they progress from 59% CPT pay to 65% CPT pay under the new EBA.

What are DJ B737 F/Os earning again?

And what are DJ B737 CPTs earning compared to the mid-to-high $200K range at QF?

And JQ A320 CPTs?
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Old 24th May 2008, 13:15
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HF,

I have mates in VB that do clear quite large sums of money every month.

Its not hard for these guys to do 120-140k p.a. without super. They do significantly better than the A320 guys at J*.

The point i think was that the gap has narrowed from when they started.

Can anyone recall what the salary was way back when?
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Old 25th May 2008, 07:01
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The con of doing a cadetship is you do not have squat experience. The pro is you get to jump straight into a big shiny plane and ride it high in the sky above all us GA scum.
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Old 25th May 2008, 11:43
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Keg, read what I said. Don't knock back an opportunity in the hope of getting through the QF cadetship. If offered them all on the same day, sure, everyone would take the QF. If not, and you go down another route, it isn't the be all and end all. You just may still have a very rewarding career.

How dare anybody be so bold as to think you could end up just as well off in aviation by not doing the QF Cadetship.

Over and out.
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Old 7th Jul 2008, 14:18
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Probably a harder question to answer is, a QF Cadetship or a ADFA/RAAF Pilot entry?
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Old 7th Jul 2008, 15:24
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Qantas Cadetship
Pro- it's Qantas which means the best terms and conditions in the country
Yeah assuming that you don't get screwed over and end up in Jetstar where you are the cheapest jet labour in the country. Are the Cadetships on offer "Qantas" or "Qantas Group". Make sure you read the fine print!!
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Old 7th Jul 2008, 22:06
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Thanks guys didnt get through to the next stage with qantas, but got some great answers
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Old 8th Jul 2008, 05:54
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starting out, sorry to hear that mate. A lot of very good people have missed out over the years its just one of those things. Keep your chin up keep going and reapply later.
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Old 9th Jul 2008, 07:01
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Since qantas didn't work out I'd say Sharp is a pretty good choice..I know a few guys that have done it and i'd like to be in their positions right now..
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Old 9th Jul 2008, 09:29
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Thanks for the helping words

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Old 15th Sep 2008, 11:16
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Hey Mr. Hat,

What is the psych profile?
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Old 18th Sep 2008, 00:28
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87,

It's the bit at the end where you have to answer about 200 questions (multichoice). The first section is about motivation at work. They give a series of statements and ask you if it decreses or increases your motivation to work. The second bit has random sentences (4 i think) and they ask which is most or least like you.

Word on the street is that they profiled their most successfull captains and thats the benchmark that you are measured on. I.e. if your personality matches theirs you are more likely to get through. I have a mate that says its the one thing that will rule you out. Either way you can't study for it and their is no point in telling fibs as they have checks in there to see if you are being honest.

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Old 20th Sep 2008, 02:50
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Below are three examples of what a Cadetship really is. In any other industry a cadet is paid whilst studying, works for the company during holidays and is guaranteed employment at the completion of training.

In aviation, a cadet pays a company far more than the going rate to train them and then gets to work for that company.




Accountantcy cadetship

A cadetship involves paid employment at the same time you're studying your business/commerce degree. Cadetships are offered by a range of Chartered Accountant organisations including the Big 4 and public practice firms.



DSE Cadetship Program

How about being paid to study science - and then be guaranteed a job. A rare opportunity?

Yes indeed. The DSE Cadetship Program offers VCE students and first year science students cadetships to study an approved science degree at a Victorian university, plus employment with the department on completion of your degree.



Could a cadetship with Country Energy be for you?

Our cadetship program allows you to study Electrical Engineering (Power) full time at university whilst working with one of Australia's leading distributors.
What are the benefits and conditions?
Permanent employment at Country Energy.
Attendance at university on a full time basis.
Payment of Student Contribution Amount (previously HECS).
Reimbursement for compulsory university textbooks.
Practical experience in the workplace during university breaks.

Airlines in Australia do not offer cadetships.
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 04:49
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I trained/worked for Sharps for 3.5 years.
Great people. Excellent aircraft. Great fun, extensive training program with many internal job opportunities. Many more opportunities through old company connections who are all more than willing to have a good chat...
Expanding routes - only had Cheiftains when I was there - now with Metros.
Nice airport to train at - usually quiet, and not far from the busy places.

I'd more than recommend Sharp Airlines if you were looking for an initial GA career with airline experience getting you a fair way quickly.
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