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Old 22nd Apr 2008, 02:49
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NAIPS - Multiple unknown waypoints

Does anybody know how to enter several unknown waypoints into the NAIPS system.

Ive heard you need to enter something like bearing and distance from the last waypoint entered.

ie if I want to enter a couple of stations and a small town such as oberon how can this be done?
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Assuming you might be doing say Bathurst -Oberaon - Bathurst, your dep and dest are obviously Bathurst, DCT and then in the remarks or what ever the comments are called, (sig points???) you enter the lat/lomg and a name, or a radial and distance or whatever it is you can use.

As for NAIPS..........its wonderful!!!! Except its not intuitive and there is no easy help menu or debugging assistant. I enetered a 3 legged rip recently, and as best I could see it was all correct but it would not proceed or allow me to upload to ASA

Its a great tool and probably if I knew it like the proverbial back of my hand it would be fine, so I pity the poor old sod who is a once a year NAIPS user and is not computer literate. Oxymoron I know.....

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Buy Champagne 3000 Flight Planner - it will do it all for you!

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ok, but also what if I need to enter multiple waypoints say two or three?
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Do your plan, phone em up, usually as I do enroute in the car....have a nice chat to one of the over worked and stressed out ATC guys or girls!

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From the Route Details Significant Point section of the NAIPS PDF manual (V3.4)


Enter a significant point as the coded designator (two to five characters) assigned to the point (e.g. BN, PLO, KALEM).
Note: For military aircraft, enter the location where the cruise climb will commence in the Significant Point field.

If no coded designator has been assigned to the point, use one of the following.

1. Latitude and Longitude

A. Degrees Only (seven characters)
Enter two figures describing the latitude in degrees, followed by S (South) or N (North), followed by three figures describing longitude in degrees, followed by E (East) or W (West).
Leave no space between latitude and longitude.
Make up the correct number of figures, where necessary, by inserting zeros.
Example: 23S143E

B. Degrees and minutes (11 characters)
Enter four figures describing latitude in degrees and minutes, followed by S (South) or N (North), followed by five figures describing longitude in degrees and minutes, followed by E (East) or W (West).
Leave no space between latitude and longitude.
Make up the correct number of figures, where necessary, by inserting zeros.
Example: 2330S14320E

2. Bearing and Distance from a Known Location
Enter the identification of the point in the form of two to five characters (SY, BIK), followed by the bearing in three figures magnetic and the distance in nautical miles expressed as three figures.
Make up the correct number of figures, where necessary, by inserting zeros.
Example: SY010120 or BIK270010


It'd be noice to have a placename lookup., but it might complicate the non web-based NAIPS somewhat to resolve duplicate or unknown names.
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Naips will take place names, bearing and distance from a place and lat/long.

Place names: YBRM, BRM, BROOME etc
B&D: BRM270090 (BRM 270 radial @ 090 nm)
Lat/long: in whole degrees only, 12S125E; or degrees and minutes, 1213S12345E

For obscure places that it won't recognise just put the lat/long into the plan, it'll take as many as you're likely to use (max 30 waypoints I think.)

Edit: What Biggles said.
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