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Old 9th Apr 2008, 04:07
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Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has invited all Australians to contribute their ideas toward building a modern nation that is ready for the challenges of the 21st century. On April 19 and 20 at Parliament House in Canberra, the Prime Minister will convene the Australia 2020 summit, a gathering of 1000 leading Australians: business people, community leaders and industry experts who normally do not have a voice in Parliament.

This impressive group will discuss Australia’s future in 10 key areas, including the economy, sustainability and climate change, indigenous affairs, the future of governance, and a long-term national health strategy.

“If we want to shape the kind of nation Australia will be in 2020, the work needs to start now,” said the Prime Minister. “There are few limits to Australia’s future potential—now is the time to start turning our nation’s potential into a reality.”

The summit will be co-chaired by the Prime Minister and Professor Glyn Davis of the University of Melbourne.
Does anybody know if there is any representation from the aviation industry on the attendance list???

Have not seen any mention to date - it would be sad (but not unexpected) if there was nobody there to fly the flag so to speak.
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Thumbs down

A quick scan of the participants list showed up a number people on the periphery of 'operational aviation'. Only one on the list I know to have held a PPL many years ago.

Very sad really. So much for representation.

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Didnt get a berth tipsy?

Be some nice eats and stuff I'd reckon?
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One would have thought that one of the alphabet organisations might have got a seat, but seems not.

One of the problems of aviation in this country is that there is no unified representation. (another subject on it's own!)

we have nobody to blame but ourselves!
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Didnt get a berth tipsy?

Be some nice eats and stuff I'd reckon?
This is an example of the mindless egalitarianism and sarcastic recourse which pervades our society and hinders real social development. "What makes you think YOU should get a berth??? You think you're better than anyone else?"

Since its development, aviation has always played a large part in Australia's growth and development and should be represented by respected, qualified and clued-up aviation professionals to help ensure the industry is not left to (continue to) hang itself.

Or maybe it was a rugged attempt at some sort of wry humour.... or a wind-up?? In that case - nice one!


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G-ZUZZ, take the blue pills - not the red pills....



Is Dick going ?
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'triadic' yr quite right there but sadly we live in a world where the individual is everything, solidarity went out the window many years ago.
Aviation will bumble along for many years to come am sure, would love to have a crystal ball to see where it is heading before I retire. Aviation to the general flying public is afterall just another form of transport. Govt. see us as a tool to move the masses, no more no less!


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Nup, I'm not going.
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Hi Dick, How's the 'yanky doodle dandy' Ford going? Still on that adventure? How's the 'flyin' shaping up? would love to go to play with my toy planes but work gets in the way



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Why aren't you going Dick?
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Heading of to Mongolia on the 26th to try and retrieve the Earthroamer from a snowdrift and drive the Gobi.

Not going because I prefer "doing" than "talking"

I fly every day including Hobart and back in the CJ today, I always get great service from ATC!

Big announcement (re aviation) in The Australian tomorrow!

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Mark my words. Virtually the only topic of discussion will be sustainability and global warming. Any other subjects discussed will be discussed ONLY in relationship to that primary subject.

1000 of Australia's best minds?

Nobody with the power of independent thought or a questioning mind, or at least a propensity to use it, will be welcome.

The bosses of industry that attend will be doing so only as rent seekers and subsidy farmers.

This is going to be an ideology driven, left wing love in...nothing more.
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not going?

I'm not going either. Onsecond thoughts, if it's a love in.............
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A recent quote from our 'esteemed leader' as he struts the world stage representing Australia

There has to be a greater synergy between, let’s call it our policy leadership in this, which has been focused so much, legitimately, on targets and global architecture, almost reverse-engineered back to the means by which you can quickly deliver outcomes, and on the demand side in our economy we’re looking at potential advances in terms of 20 to 25% range if you do this across the board. It all takes cost, but let me tell you it’s probably the quickest lever you can pull given the challenges we face."
K Rudd
The man is a well documented control freak. Like Referenda and Royal Commissions (they never have them unless the outcome is certain and not going to bite them on the arse) there is no way a politician will risk an outcome that is uncertain either politically or personally.

This is a politically and ideologically stacked event along the lines of the Bali Climate change circus...but, unlike Bali, one Krudd can control.
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Thanks for that Dick, I would rather go flying to than listen to Teflon Kev and his groupies prattle on.
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Biggest review in Australian aviation history launches today

THE federal Government will today launch the biggest review of Australian aviation in its 100-year history as it moves to establish a long-awaited national aviation policy.

An issues paper to be released today in Melbourne identifies a broad range of challenges facing the sector - including international liberalisation, security, pilot shortages, airport development, regulatory reform, climate change and aircraft noise - and sets the stage for the first aviation white paper to be delivered next year.

Transport Minister Anthony Albanese has called for submissions on the issues to be completed by September, and will use the white paper for formulating long-term aviation policy.

The wide-ranging review will be welcomed by an industry that has long complained about the lack of an overarching national policy.

The sector supports almost 50,000 jobs and contributes an estimated $6.8billion to gross national product.

Although there have been significant policy changes in aviation - such as the decision to deregulate the domestic market in 1990 and subsequent moves to privatise Qantas and the nation's major airports - there has never been a comprehensive national aviation policy statement.

Mr Albanese will tell industry leaders attending a forum organised by tourism and transport lobby group TTF Australia the review recognises the aviation industry's role in underpinning domestic economic growth and providing gateways to the global economy. He will emphasise the need for a long-term national strategy that closely links aviation development to the nation's economic development.

The move comes as passenger numbers at airports grow at an average annual rate of 5.8 per cent, outstripping average economic growth of 3.1 per cent.

The growth has not been without its challenges for airports, airlines, regulators and the air navigation provider, which have produced heated debate about airspace regulation, airport development, aircraft noise and the industry's contribution to global warming.

Smaller airlines continue to struggle and the general aviation sector has argued for years that it has languished because of a lack of a national policy.

The issues paper is broken into the themes of industry, infrastructure, safety, security and community protection. Questions include whether the deregulated domestic market remains the best model for delivering interstate air services, policies towards regional and remote communities and whether security is appropriate to the bush.

Other areas look at whether the Government should protect infrastructure at secondary airports and promote dialogue between airports and nearby communities and whether there should be an integrated approach to planning developments around airports.

The review will examine ways of improving governance of the Civil Aviation Safety Authority and Airservices Australia, addressing the pilot shortage and what steps the industry is taking to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and aircraft noise. Mr Albanese said the white paper would aim to give the industry certainty and incentives for long-term investment and planning.

TTF managing director Christopher Brown said last night the review would be welcomed by industry.

He said some bold one-off aviation policies, such as privatising Qantas and the airports, had emerged in recent decades.

"But no one's really sat down to deconstruct the whole thing and work where we want to be in the next ... 20years of aviation," he said.

"It's now for the industry to respond. We've got what we asked for and ... it's up to all of us to step up to the mark."

Source and full article accessible online in The Australian at
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-23349,00.html

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Chuckles and Frozo have summed it up fairly well I would think.

Like the Republican debate of about ten or so years ago, a lot will be said but any outcome will be nothing of substance.

Really nothing more than a ''mass debate'.'' (Say it quickly)
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Bino's Grumpy & TC will be there...surely?

I had to decline...forgot the words to "It's time" at the audition!
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Good to see our taxes hard at work!

I would like to nominate the following Ppruners to attend:
Bushy, Tinnpis, FTDK, Gaunty, EastWest Loco, Pinky the pilot and Captain Wally.

No doubt the discussion will involve global warming, carbon offsets, aboriginals, drugs, the arts, advanced dolphin saving, possibility of a republic and no doubt a look at Kev's happy snaps from his holiday. Bet he gave the strip joints a miss in New York this time.

Will Kev speak in Mandarin or Australiaaaan?
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Really nothing more than a ''mass debate'.''
I love it!
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