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Old 25th Mar 2008, 10:18
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Duchess v Twin Star for MECIR

Hi Guys,

Just wondering if anyone knows if GA Companies/Airlines take into consideration what type of plane you did your Twin Training in when they are considering you against other applicants? I have the opportunity of commencing my Twin training now in the Duchess or waiting for FTA to release the grounding of their Diamonds and apparently know one knows when this will be

Any suggestions?

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Old 25th Mar 2008, 10:27
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Go the Duchess! Looks, sounds and flies like a real aeroplane!

As for the TwinStar? Looks ridiculus! Sounds funny! Flies ...... sometimes!

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GGta, cheers, but what about the glass cockpit system...do you know if this is being preferred by companies to already have this experience using the G1000 etc.

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is being preferred by companies to already have this experience using the G1000 etc
I doubt it. Learning the G1000 is a couple of hours work.

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You could always try to get a job flying this ugly duckling!

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Hey Jaba, that thing was REALLY HAPPY to see YOU!

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What the....

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And here is its cousin at YMYB today!

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Man, you do have a way with aeroplanes!
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Dont say things like that......the FTDK will come along soon and suggest I do Fk a few of them up!

Which is not true......his machines just seem to go U/S whenever I am around

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funny one there boys I bet the Dr will want one on his Bo next!
He's got everything else that opens & shuts in that baby!

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cant be that hard to fly.. the emirates boys are actually passing their CIRs these days i hear. lol
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Nope!

Such appendages have no place on the FTDK.

Ya need to learn how to sex your aeroplanes Wally!

I would have thought it was obvious that the V-tail is a very female characteristic!

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Just wondering if anyone knows if GA Companies/Airlines take into consideration what type of plane you did your Twin Training in when they are considering you against other applicants
Depends. You said you're at FTA, does that imply you're trying for a QF cadetship or are you planning on going the GA route?

If you aim is to go straight off to QF or the like then by all means enjoy the DA42, a bit of glass can't hurt when it comes to preparing for a sim check.

If you're planning to go the GA route to the airlines then it might be a good idea to skip the glass and remain strictly steam driven. Your first GA twin job will most likely be in an ageing aircraft such as the Baron, 310, Navajo or similar class aircraft. The all glass single-lever-a-side approach in the DA42 is a whole world removed from 6 lever steam and could quite well count against you down the track (although I've not specifically heard this is the case, probably because when I was in GA last there weren't any G1000's in training aircraft). Why risk it?

The other big question, what's the price difference and what's cheaper?

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GGtA

As for the TwinStar? Looks ridiculous! Sounds funny! Flies ...... sometimes!
Your fishing, so lets see if I cant straighted your hook a little.

If an all composite modern design looks ridiculous to you then perhaps your just not up to speed on what an efficient low drag design looks like. Do you actually like the look of an aircraft with rivets protruding in to the air stream from a wavy poorly contoured, fatigue-able, and corrode-able skin surface?

Sounds funny: It just sounds different and it is much quieter than typical lighties. A factor that might well be welcomed by those that try and lobby for airport closers due noise. You do want to keep airports open and thriving don't you?

Flies sometimes: Yep they have had a few issues, and I dare say more to come. But that comes with progress and development of a new type. Or were you expecting affordable perfection straight out of the box?

Learning the G1000 is a couple of hours work.
Yeah right. If you can master all the capabilities of a complex system like the G1000 in a couple of hours then you must be a genius. But I guess you already knew that, thats why you tagged yourself with user-name of GoDsGiFtToAvIaTiOn.

Thanks for the shrimp

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Thanks Hasselhof...makes sense. Unfortunately at FTA the pricing on the Duchess and the Twin Star per hour is exactly the same

At this stage my path is GA but I already have 700tt and 550command so I might be lucky in landing an FO spot on a small airline but happy to go either way....not having any twin time goes against me for an FO position.

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'PA' hasselhof brings good points to this discussion & says just about it, I would strongly consider the steam driven planes as mentioned for good reasons. If it is purely for an airline job then that's doesn't guarentee anything. You may still end up in GA where there are more levers than you can poke a stick at in yr GA twin hence better to be prepared when it comes to anything aviation. You can go either way with background training on a Duchesss for EG but may find 'deathstar' only exp could work against you should GA be the final route for a few years.


Cost? yeah well that's pretty much what drives this industry, nobody can advise you on that matter


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No jet employer is going to care what aeroplane you did your twin endorsement on. The way supply and demand is is at the moment, you could have 3 hours of dual on a paper glider and they will give you a job.
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As for the TwinStar? Looks ridiculus! Sounds funny! Flies ...... sometimes!
Oh, I forgot! ...... and don't leave it out in the sun!

Youngmichael, aviation is about knowledge, manipulative skills, risk management, and above all else ........

...... IMAGE!

Go to your local GA aerodrome and park somewhere off the end of the duty runway, and listen to a TwinStar taking off and then a Baron/C310 taking off ..... then ask yourself, honestly, which one you would rather fly? The one that sounds like two weed wackers working together to trim the garden edge, or the one that cackles like a pack of steroid pumped angry hornets from Hell!

GGtA
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Give me something that sounds like it has grunt......
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