RAAF FCIs going to sale?

[oldm8]

I heard today that FCIs are now going to go to Sale for a shortened version of FIC. Something about improving airborne instructional techniques to improve conversion pass rates in ACG. Also that CAT checks are going to be done on them by CFS QFIs annually.

Anyone else heard about this?

[rapiddescent]

FCI's in Sale

Interesting thought.

Haven't heard as much, although I heard that OCU are losing more studs these days...maybe due to FCI instruction?

Not sure how the CAT system works with QFI / FCI. Should be the same shouldn't it?

[oldm8]

ACG needs a massive increase in manning over the next few years so it makes sense that pass rates need to go up.

[control snatch]

Hmm....dont think they will be happy about this. But I guess it does make sense. Otherwise how can they teach basics like circuits, IF etc.

Sale.....hurt!

DDM......hurt!

[rapiddescent]

FCIs in Sale

Hey control snatch, DDM?

If they go to Sale, would it be on the Hornet or PC-9? If they flew the hornet, then would CFS be able to fly in it? i.e. since they will not be front seat qualified....

although, I suppose they are CFS, therefore they can pretty much fly and teach anything right?

[Milt]

Lower the bar and the standards go lower also. Sounds like the bean counters are having a bigger influence.

[rapiddescent]

Lowering the bar

Milt,

Lowering the bar? how so? Surley by extra and more specific training at Sale, the pass rates will climb?

[plane of motion]

And the hits just keep on coming!!!

[Mick.B]

This might explain why we are getting so many F-18s and Hawks of the Victorian coast lately.

[ForkTailedDrKiller]

Will be interesting to see what the RAAF gets for them !

Dr

[Trojan1981]

Pass-a-frozo

http://www.ftarmy.com/logo/AC853.pdf

[oldpinger]

Trojan- Excellent work, laughed so hard I nearly joined the army...

You haven't got the number for the nearest chaplain as well have you??

[OZBorn]

Rapid Descent,

DDM = Demo, Direct, Monitor. THE method of instruction that the military use that could be taught in a day but takes CFS 4 months to do.

[Gundog01]

although I heard that OCU are losing more studs these days...maybe due to FCI instruction?

Not true. The only studs not completing course for the last few years have been medical or self suspensions.

They're losing more instructors than studs these days.......

[Victor India]

OzBorn : A Cat QFI? Probably not.

OzBorn : Copped the raw end of the stick at some stage and not yet quite over it? Probably.

VI

[Mick.B]

So what is the verdict. Are they or are they not going to East Sale.

[rapiddescent]

thanks

Oz, thanks for the info.

Sounds like you have been through that part of the system?

GUNDOG wrote

Not true. The only studs not completing course for the last few years have been medical or self suspensions.


Surely there have been suspensions due to 'inability to pass on their own merits' right?? i.e. not making the grade?

I thought OCU was flush for staff - hence the CFS posting??

[Gundog01]

Surely there have been suspensions due to 'inability to pass on their own merits' right?? i.e. not making the grade?

I thought OCU was flush for staff - hence the CFS posting??

2OCU havent lost anyone due 'ability' that I know of for at least 2 years.

76 Sqn and 6 Sqn are a different story. 2-3 piggy drivers have failed recently and there is usually 1 or 2 failures per course at 76 lately.

Rumors are that the product from 2FTS isn't what it used to be. Can anyone confirm????

[Chronic Snoozer]

Rumors are that the product from 2FTS isn't what it used to be. Can anyone confirm????

Yeah, ever since Sir Richard Williams graduated its been going downhill......

[Naked_recommiting]

- I beleive Sale representatives come to WLM for the instructional training for the FCI's, at the start of their FCI course. I don't think they will ever go to Sale, I can't see what that would acheive.

- I have heard there has been a suspension lately, an ex piggy pilot trying to convert back to single seat.