New Aussie PPL - Fly himself across US?
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New Aussie PPL - Fly himself across US?
Can a new Aussie PPL, Cessna trained, fly stages LA to a departure point for Iceland, without costs of returning the hired plane to origin of that flight? Or maybe the one plane all the way?
Ditto ex Iceland to Rome?
Is this a hair brain idea?? Just-rich-enough Grandad, non pilot, but well versed in aviation, and 18 year old PPL??
Cheers, Wynnum.
Ditto ex Iceland to Rome?
Is this a hair brain idea?? Just-rich-enough Grandad, non pilot, but well versed in aviation, and 18 year old PPL??
Cheers, Wynnum.
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Not quite sure what you mean. If the grandfather owns the aircraft his grandson does not have to return it. No problem if the aircraft is Australian registered. For a US registered aircraft, the Aus. PPL will not do.
LA to departure point to Iceland would be into Canada, which is no problem, but I guess you mean him to fly it to Iceland itself? Have a look at threads on ferry flying cross Atlantic, if he can get insurance for your aircraft, I would still value his life too much. - Let him build a couple of hundred hours in the US or Canada before in icing conditions and make sure he has an IR.
With regard to Iceland - Rome: look at a map.
I would like to suggest, with all due respect, that this granddad has very little understanding of the operation of small aircraft, licensing and geography.
Hopefully, the grandson will do lots more reading before being sent on a suicide mission with eyes shut. Luckily, there is no chance to obtain all permissions for this summer, so that the PPL will be 19 before he can go next year...
cheers, IP
LA to departure point to Iceland would be into Canada, which is no problem, but I guess you mean him to fly it to Iceland itself? Have a look at threads on ferry flying cross Atlantic, if he can get insurance for your aircraft, I would still value his life too much. - Let him build a couple of hundred hours in the US or Canada before in icing conditions and make sure he has an IR.
With regard to Iceland - Rome: look at a map.
I would like to suggest, with all due respect, that this granddad has very little understanding of the operation of small aircraft, licensing and geography.
Hopefully, the grandson will do lots more reading before being sent on a suicide mission with eyes shut. Luckily, there is no chance to obtain all permissions for this summer, so that the PPL will be 19 before he can go next year...
cheers, IP
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....fly stages LA to a departure point for Iceland, without costs of returning the hired plane to origin of that flight? Or maybe the one plane all the way?
Ditto ex Iceland to Rome?
Is this a hair brained idea?
Nunc est bibendum
I'm not sure you'll find many guys with multiple thousands of hours that would consider a flight like that let alone a new PPL holder. I think Chimbu has it right! 
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It's probably possible in some form...I'm probably going to be shot down in flames by those with more experience.
You would definately need a *lot* of assistance along the way.
Factor in the following:-
1. Spend some time training in the US/Canada - including an IR rating, license conversion and gaining experience with some of the conditions that you are likely to experience.
2. Use an experienced ferry pilot to fly the aircraft from Cape Breton to Scotland for you.
3. Do the numbers on purchasing the aircraft for later resale in Europe at the end of the trip.
4. Find a very understanding insurance company, or two, or three.
You would definately need a *lot* of assistance along the way.
Factor in the following:-
1. Spend some time training in the US/Canada - including an IR rating, license conversion and gaining experience with some of the conditions that you are likely to experience.
2. Use an experienced ferry pilot to fly the aircraft from Cape Breton to Scotland for you.
3. Do the numbers on purchasing the aircraft for later resale in Europe at the end of the trip.
4. Find a very understanding insurance company, or two, or three.
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Well I dunno....
Knew this fella
At the time it was thought he couldnt find his arse using both hands....
Knew this fella
At the time it was thought he couldnt find his arse using both hands....
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Thanks all, for the no-nonsense replies - sounds like airlines all the way with a local GA flight or two along the way.
Grandad not only dreams occassionally, but both ears still work - ditto occassionall for the grey stuff in between.
Cheers, Wynnum.
Grandad not only dreams occassionally, but both ears still work - ditto occassionall for the grey stuff in between.
Cheers, Wynnum.
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Got to love the Germans (geier-flyer):
If you really want to fly...
"In 2002 we sold our house and land for which we worked hard, drove to Naples/Italy for negotiations with Vulcanair."
sc
If you really want to fly...
"In 2002 we sold our house and land for which we worked hard, drove to Naples/Italy for negotiations with Vulcanair."
sc
Grandpa Aerotart
To those suggesting it is possible re read the first post...or my highlighted quote. He is not talking about buying an aeroplane but hiring one and leaving it at desto like a hire car...that is just not possible.
Now if he said BUY I would have said...go for it...just pay for a professional ferry pilot to sit in the RHS every inch of the way to MAYBE stop your boy dieing. I say maybe because engine failure over the North Sea would be touch and go with JC his self sat in the copilots seat.
Now if he said BUY I would have said...go for it...just pay for a professional ferry pilot to sit in the RHS every inch of the way to MAYBE stop your boy dieing. I say maybe because engine failure over the North Sea would be touch and go with JC his self sat in the copilots seat.
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Chimbu and all,
My thoughts were airlines most of the way and GA hire flights at various places across the US like Phoenix and San Antonio. I went there in an earlier life re the metroliner. Domestic airline flights point to point in the US.
Then my dreamtime set in - could we do some GA flights in lieu of domestic airline flights.
As earlier, my dreamtime is shattered for at least another year. Thanks for the wake up call.
Cheers, Wynnum.
My thoughts were airlines most of the way and GA hire flights at various places across the US like Phoenix and San Antonio. I went there in an earlier life re the metroliner. Domestic airline flights point to point in the US.
Then my dreamtime set in - could we do some GA flights in lieu of domestic airline flights.
As earlier, my dreamtime is shattered for at least another year. Thanks for the wake up call.
Cheers, Wynnum.
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At the time it was thought he couldnt find his arse using both hands.
emergency procedure of hanging a plumb bob from the canopy handle if he ever lost the AH.
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WYNNUM:
The point here is you can not fly a US aircraft with an Australian License. You must have an FAA License. (I think you can covert your Australian license call the FAA) You can fly a VH- registered aircraft if you can find one in the US or of cause you could take one to the USA via ship/ferry flight. Remember also you need a Australian LAME to do the work on the VH- Aircraft in the US as well.
The point here is you can not fly a US aircraft with an Australian License. You must have an FAA License. (I think you can covert your Australian license call the FAA) You can fly a VH- registered aircraft if you can find one in the US or of cause you could take one to the USA via ship/ferry flight. Remember also you need a Australian LAME to do the work on the VH- Aircraft in the US as well.
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Just reading Cliff Taits web site and he has this sage advice,
Bet none of you ever knew that.
CB penetration is relatively harmless if you remember to control airspeed and maintain direction
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