Hobart Airport Night Closure
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Hobart Airport Night Closure
Heard a rumour that Hobart airport is going to reduced hours from the 1st of March, apparently no arrival or departures between 8pm and 6am. Anyone know why this is happening maybe a noise curfew?
Sounds like won't be able to use Hobart as an alternate when YMML is fogbound?
Sounds like won't be able to use Hobart as an alternate when YMML is fogbound?
Nothing on the NOTAMs
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If the tower closes early, it won't mean no more jets, it'll mean self separate below F125. Nice little workload increase for the pilots and the Area controller above.
I worked that airspace today and haven't heard of this happening...yet. Couple of nice little sequences during those hours, too.
I worked that airspace today and haven't heard of this happening...yet. Couple of nice little sequences during those hours, too.
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Captain Wally, the RFDS have been told to relocate over to Cambridge and enjoy using drum fuel to refuel until a tank gets put in for them.
According to my source of info, AirBP are getting a new tanker for Avtur at CBG.
According to my source of info, AirBP are getting a new tanker for Avtur at CBG.
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ok 'stationair8' that's interesting to read. Heard nothing here but shall look into it more seeing that at times the HB ILS is all that stands between getting the task done & the obvious!
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Anyone out in Pprune land got the strip details for Cambridge Runways 06/24, 09/27, 14/32 and 17/35.
What runway length do the RFDS plan on Captain Wally for B200?
What runway length do the RFDS plan on Captain Wally for B200?
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'stationair8' the B200 can land in as little as 600 mtrs (less under certain conditions) all going well but we plan on having available no less than 900 mtrs. The last thing you need/want is a short strip when just off an approach in low vis due rain & windshear! The other end of the scale is YMAV, over 3 clicks of black stuff, enough to land a dozen times !
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The actual situation is that Hobart Airport is planning for some significant works on the runway and during the consultative process canvassed the possibility of the RFDS landing at Cambridge so that the runway could be closed after the last RPT jet flight and reopened before the first morning flight. It eventuated that this could not be done so it is now proposed that a displaced threshold be placed during that time.
Hope this clears the situation up
Thanks
Hope this clears the situation up
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The story is they didn't want to go to the hassle off getting or organising a Notam for the displaced threshold, instead we just close it.
Apparently the said individual in charge of the project has been bull****ting to the various operators why the airport has to be closed, but forgot to tell the airlines they might have to change their arrival times and didn't bother to inform the various freight carriers that the airport would be closed for night ops. Don't know how he expected the mainland newspapers to be in the newsagent by 6am, or the express post to be in on time.
We will see what happens.
Apparently the said individual in charge of the project has been bull****ting to the various operators why the airport has to be closed, but forgot to tell the airlines they might have to change their arrival times and didn't bother to inform the various freight carriers that the airport would be closed for night ops. Don't know how he expected the mainland newspapers to be in the newsagent by 6am, or the express post to be in on time.
We will see what happens.
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You are showing your age now. Cambridge 17/35 was already closed when I learnt to fly there in the late 60's. It is now a taxiway. 06/24 was closed some years ago and a large part of it has now been built on.
09/27 may or may not be closed soon as the airport owner has plans to further subdivide and develop. There are also plans for 14/32 to be rebuilt and slightly redirected to align with 12/30.
Night circling approaches into Cambridge can be a real bitch with the close proximity of some quite high real estate on at least two sides which in really bad weather could well limit operations severely.
Just ask some of the lads who used to do the bank run out of there to Melbourne, arriving back in the ghastly early hours after a long long day and night.
The only thing it had going for it at night was that once visual off the 12 Hobart ILS it only took a 20 degree turn to align with 14.
You are showing your age now. Cambridge 17/35 was already closed when I learnt to fly there in the late 60's. It is now a taxiway. 06/24 was closed some years ago and a large part of it has now been built on.
09/27 may or may not be closed soon as the airport owner has plans to further subdivide and develop. There are also plans for 14/32 to be rebuilt and slightly redirected to align with 12/30.
Night circling approaches into Cambridge can be a real bitch with the close proximity of some quite high real estate on at least two sides which in really bad weather could well limit operations severely.
Just ask some of the lads who used to do the bank run out of there to Melbourne, arriving back in the ghastly early hours after a long long day and night.The only thing it had going for it at night was that once visual off the 12 Hobart ILS it only took a 20 degree turn to align with 14.
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PLovett more prayers said in the Cambridge circuit due to mechanical turbulence than in most Churches on a Sunday.
Your old stamping ground could be the next big seaside housing suburb in HB.
Your old stamping ground could be the next big seaside housing suburb in HB.
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Actually, S8, mostly industrial. If you haven't been there for a few years you would be hard put to recognise the place.
When I was last there just over a year ago there was a massive factory direct outlet being built just over the road and the airport owner was still planning yet more development on the airfield.
Just about on the old 06 threshold there is a winery. An enterprising fellow saw the need for a wine making establishment to take care of all the yuppies planting vines on their 5 acres up the Richmond road.
I can't believe they are serious about having the RFDS use it at night though. The runways are narrow, undulating and as you mentioned, subject to some pretty sever mechanical turbulence. At present, night ops are limited to 14/32 and takeoff 09 and landing 27 only. The circling limits would severly strain operations in bad weather.
When I was last there just over a year ago there was a massive factory direct outlet being built just over the road and the airport owner was still planning yet more development on the airfield.
Just about on the old 06 threshold there is a winery. An enterprising fellow saw the need for a wine making establishment to take care of all the yuppies planting vines on their 5 acres up the Richmond road.
I can't believe they are serious about having the RFDS use it at night though. The runways are narrow, undulating and as you mentioned, subject to some pretty sever mechanical turbulence. At present, night ops are limited to 14/32 and takeoff 09 and landing 27 only. The circling limits would severly strain operations in bad weather.
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Hobart airport is getting a DFO, ABC Child care centre, 24 Hour Servo and a Hotel.
Between the old highway and the new highway is the Homemaker Centre and a Harvey Norman Centre.
Nick Tanner and Lloyd Jones would turn in their graves if they saw the place today. RIP gentlemen.
Between the old highway and the new highway is the Homemaker Centre and a Harvey Norman Centre.
Nick Tanner and Lloyd Jones would turn in their graves if they saw the place today. RIP gentlemen.
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Don't be stupid Roger standby, don't about worry pilots and planes etc it is all about maximising the grab for dollars.
Hobart has about 1.5 million passengers combine that with the road traffic to the DFO, retire and buy a bodyworks/spray booth.
Hobart has about 1.5 million passengers combine that with the road traffic to the DFO, retire and buy a bodyworks/spray booth.
I should know better by now.
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The regulars will be sick of my map, but for those who have not seen it you can see it here
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=310332
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http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=310332
Seems to apply to this thread
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