Learmonth Airport
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And yes, it's amazing as to how many jet jockey's don't know their AIP either if they're inserting that unessecary piece of phraseology into their calls,
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.And yes, it's amazing as to how many jet jockey's don't know their AIP either if they're inserting that unessecary piece of phraseology into their calls,
.morno
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f the issue was simular to the renaming of, for example, Ayres rock (the rock that is) to its traditional name, I dont think any body would complain.
Learmonth airport on the other hand wasn't known as anything before it became an airport. Therefore it's not a valid comparison.
Keg,
I agree with you, probably not the best comparision - my poor word skills leading to a miss-understanding... yet again.
Learmonth airfield was a 1940's construction for the war effort. While the airfield was named after an individual, I think keeping YPLM as a whole named after a war time pilot serves to remember all the war time pilots and others that helped with the war effort.
I agree with you, probably not the best comparision - my poor word skills leading to a miss-understanding... yet again.
Learmonth airfield was a 1940's construction for the war effort. While the airfield was named after an individual, I think keeping YPLM as a whole named after a war time pilot serves to remember all the war time pilots and others that helped with the war effort.
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I found out this evening that RAAF members are NOT permitted from making representations on the matter. I understand that the RAAF is considering making representations but that direct input from RAAF members has been confirmed as being inappropriate....even if they don't identify themselves as RAAF members! 
RAAF members are NOT permitted from making representations on the matter
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Learmonth is indeed an alternate landing site for the shuttle.
It is the only airfield in the southern hemisphere that is long and heavy enough to take the shuttle, and of course is located in a US friendly country.
taking off again is another problem.
Dont know how they would go with Customs tho, as I'm pretty sure they wouldnt have passports.
It is the only airfield in the southern hemisphere that is long and heavy enough to take the shuttle, and of course is located in a US friendly country.
taking off again is another problem.
Dont know how they would go with Customs tho, as I'm pretty sure they wouldnt have passports.
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Learmonth is indeed an alternate landing site for the shuttle.
It is the only airfield in the southern hemisphere that is long and heavy enough to take the shuttle
It is the only airfield in the southern hemisphere that is long and heavy enough to take the shuttle
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Renaming Learmonth
Don't sit there and write 'bloody councils etc'. Harangue these people by any means possible and stop them from destroying this country's heritage. The trouble with we Australians is that we continue to moan about things AFTER the event instead of ENSURING it doesn't happen in the first place. Get off your Ar**s and stop the buggers in that Council from this disgusting plan.
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EXmouth Council eh?
Wonder what it was like when it used to be a council with a mouth
I shall write something to them on this matter. This proposal is no good at all
Wonder what it was like when it used to be a council with a mouth
I shall write something to them on this matter. This proposal is no good at all
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I live in the area (South of) and have just heard of this stupid proposition to rename Learmonth.
I'd rather see the actual "Exmouth" airstrip (just out of town) upgraded to full length tarmac and rename that Ningaloo. This way, GA ops would be far safer and more cost effective for the tourist punter who wanted to visit Exmouth and all places in the area.
The only downside is that Kailis fisheries are so handy to the Learmonth site to drop in and grab some fish etc.
I'd rather see the actual "Exmouth" airstrip (just out of town) upgraded to full length tarmac and rename that Ningaloo. This way, GA ops would be far safer and more cost effective for the tourist punter who wanted to visit Exmouth and all places in the area.
The only downside is that Kailis fisheries are so handy to the Learmonth site to drop in and grab some fish etc.
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I found out this evening that RAAF members are NOT permitted from making representations on the matter. I understand that the RAAF is considering making representations but that direct input from RAAF members has been confirmed as being inappropriate....even if they don't identify themselves as RAAF members!
So....If I don't indentify myself as a serving member, how do they know if I am?
As far as I'm aware serving members can say whatever they want about whomever they want wherever they want, as long as they don't identify themselves as serving members or (more importantly) try and say it's ADF policy.
Aren't serving members citizens, with voting rights, rights of free speech etc?
Keggy mate, from where or whom did you hear this scuttlebutt?
Keg,
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Keg or Cpt.SD, who is correct on this matter ?
direct input from RAAF members has been confirmed as being inappropriate....even if they don't identify themselves as RAAF members!
As far as I'm aware serving members can say whatever they want about whomever they want wherever they want
Keg or Cpt.SD, who is correct on this matter ?
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I have an email in my inbox from a serving RAAF member. One of the forwarded messages is from a RAAF officer stating that it is inappropriate to comment on the matter. The reply from the subordinate asks if they can comment if they're not identified as a RAAF member and the answer is an unequivocal 'no'.
Is it a lawful order? I don't know and i don't care. It's still a direction and one that many subordinate RAAF members would be reluctant to challenge if they thought they were in the right.
How would the RAAF know? In all probably they wouldn't....but that doesn't mean that someone, somewhere won't end up finding out and/or working it out and causing heat for the subordinate.
I must admit that I'm a little surprised by this statement CSD:
I would have thought that you of all people would understand that the DFDA puts a lot of restrictions on ADF members that aren't placed on the rest of society.
Is it a lawful order? I don't know and i don't care. It's still a direction and one that many subordinate RAAF members would be reluctant to challenge if they thought they were in the right.
How would the RAAF know? In all probably they wouldn't....but that doesn't mean that someone, somewhere won't end up finding out and/or working it out and causing heat for the subordinate.
I must admit that I'm a little surprised by this statement CSD:
Aren't serving members citizens, with voting rights, rights of free speech etc?
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I would have thought that you of all people would understand that the DFDA puts a lot of restrictions on ADF members that aren't placed on the rest of society.
I have an email in my inbox from a serving RAAF member. One of the forwarded messages is from a RAAF officer stating that it is inappropriate to comment on the matter. The reply from the subordinate asks if they can comment if they're not identified as a RAAF member and the answer is an unequivocal 'no'.
I do occasionally send letters to newspapers etc talking about defence related matters using my real name and address. However I am very careful not no intimate in any way that I am a serving member, or that what I am quacking on about is the opinion of the DoD. Haven't been hauled in front of the CO for a one-way conversation without tea yet!
