Feeling Sick/Light-headed learning to fly
I can tell you an even better story about the shared spew bag in C206 by all the occupants, but has it breakfast time we might leave it for another day!
Anyone ever flown with an instructor who is feeling a little off colour and has to use the old spew bag?
Ginger tablets are also worth using.
Anyone ever flown with an instructor who is feeling a little off colour and has to use the old spew bag?
Ginger tablets are also worth using.
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Originally Posted by Stationair8
Anyone ever flown with an instructor who is feeling a little off colour and has to use the old spew bag?
Curried beer farts?
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"Bladder" go see yr local Dr. The advice here although maybe helpful maybe totally useless if you have a bug in yr tummy. I had a friend many years ago that was going from LAME to Flt engineer as they did many years ago so he wanted to do a bit of flying before hand. He was never too keen on actual flying anyway. Just as well we did it 'cause not long after becoming airborne he was sick as ten men!. We did this over a few weeks going up trying to get him used to it. Calm days, rough days, ate little b4 hand, took all the usual advice as mentioned here to no effect.
End result?...............he went to his local Dr & found that he had a stomach dissorder/bug that was causing the motion sickness & that was taken care of. Now he's been flying as an FE for over 20 yrs.
Best cancel all doubts by making sure yr quack can pay his next installement off his Porsche by way of a visit !
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End result?...............he went to his local Dr & found that he had a stomach dissorder/bug that was causing the motion sickness & that was taken care of. Now he's been flying as an FE for over 20 yrs.
Best cancel all doubts by making sure yr quack can pay his next installement off his Porsche by way of a visit !
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I Agree With The Ginger Biscuit Plan, I Still Feel Ill Doing Aeros And So Fly With Biscuits In My Pocket....by The Way The Best Ones Are The Tesco 25 Pence Packets.....the Others Don't Have Enough Ginger!!
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That which we call ginger / By any other name would stop the spew
We actually carry ginger bears (like the gummy bears) in with the drinks on all pax flights. When I'm giving my pax brief I always mention the ginger bears (with real ginger) as I mention the cold water/drinks. Many people don't like pure dehydrated ginger and even ginger tablets still make some people feel like they're popping pills (causing them to feel its a drastic step and to avoid it if they think that they'll be fine) so offering it as a lolly makes sense to me.
He he, holes in the bottom of the sick sacks, that's cruel (but still kind of funny)... wankers
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He he, holes in the bottom of the sick sacks, that's cruel (but still kind of funny)... wankers
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I have been feeling rather light-headed, tired and stomach feels somewhat queasy/uncomfortable during the lesson and immediately after it..
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Originally Posted by stationair8
Anyone ever flown with an instructor who is feeling a little off colour and has to use the old spew bag?
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I also feel the same. i did so well in my sim check but when i got to the real plane it was a totally different experience. I flew for the first time on saturday and all thru the flight i felt like the turbulence was gonna kill us. lol. i know al; about turbulence and that i shouldnt be bothered about it and all that, but even after 13 landings under my belt (3 days of flying) im still terrified of taking a plane up there. im feel so disappointed with myself bcos flying is all i've ever wanted and now im feelng so queasy. But funny enough, i never felt close to throwing up or nauseaus. just lightheaded and butterfly feelings in my belly.
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Sorry RM, couldn't resist!Like many people, I also felt queasy early on in my flying training and chucked a few times after aerobatics. Even nearly thirty years later I would usually feel a bit dodgy when coming back from an absence of a few weeks.
It will very probably get better by itself and not be an issue. As someone said above, make sure you're not getting pressure points from your headset, and that the rest of your flying gear is comfortable.
Get some ventilation airflow on you if possible.
Try not to 'bury your head in the cockpit', i.e. concentrate mainly on attitude and lookout.
Good luck!
As they say if humans where meant to fly then God would have given us wings, he didn't so we improvised:-)Motion sickness effect almost everyone at some time in their lives. Did me when I was a kid in my fathers car.I'd get in the car on a hot summers day & even whilst still in the driveway I'd bark all over the place! This was I believe now to have been due the fumes given off the vinyl interior at the time.
Years latter when starting to learn the art of driving planes I would near chuck on every flight as a student. My hands/fingers would tingle to the point I had no feeling in my fingers, headaches,sweats, all the symptoms where there, I thought I'd be a motor mech the rest of my life (worst job known to mankind) but I persevered making sure I drank gallons of H2o & had lots of fresh air in my face.
Another story was when a friend of mine was thinking of jumping from the FE seat of a 767 back in the good 'ole days to the most fwd seat,pilot as they offered all the FE's driver slots due FE's becoming redundant . This mate had me take him up flying in a lighty several times as he knew he often felt queezy when he went flying but managed it fairly well as he wasn't in Cmd of the ship as an FE.We did this numerous times & every time he would look decidedly off & green around the gills. he gave the idea away but went to the Dr as a last resort & found out he had a stomach bug that had been a problem for him for years. Got that sorted & he went on to fly for many years as an FE again in the old freight clunkers 727's.
For him it was a medical condition rectified, for me it was just making sure a few things where changed like lots of water & lots of fresh air with simply continuous exposure to this unnatural world).
Wmk2
Years latter when starting to learn the art of driving planes I would near chuck on every flight as a student. My hands/fingers would tingle to the point I had no feeling in my fingers, headaches,sweats, all the symptoms where there, I thought I'd be a motor mech the rest of my life (worst job known to mankind) but I persevered making sure I drank gallons of H2o & had lots of fresh air in my face.
Another story was when a friend of mine was thinking of jumping from the FE seat of a 767 back in the good 'ole days to the most fwd seat,pilot as they offered all the FE's driver slots due FE's becoming redundant . This mate had me take him up flying in a lighty several times as he knew he often felt queezy when he went flying but managed it fairly well as he wasn't in Cmd of the ship as an FE.We did this numerous times & every time he would look decidedly off & green around the gills. he gave the idea away but went to the Dr as a last resort & found out he had a stomach bug that had been a problem for him for years. Got that sorted & he went on to fly for many years as an FE again in the old freight clunkers 727's.
For him it was a medical condition rectified, for me it was just making sure a few things where changed like lots of water & lots of fresh air with simply continuous exposure to this unnatural world).
Wmk2
Last avmed training I did, they said it is a normal response to an abnormal situation.
Apparently eating poisons will upset your vestibular system first (think head spins when drunk & laying down), so we have evolved to vomit in response to crazy vestibular vibes (correct, I *don't* know medical lingo).
Anyway the good news is that anybody can be trained to learn the experience. Just don't be physically sick as your body will (incorrectly) learn that is the best way of dealing with it.
The best thing ($$ dependent) is to knock off the flight if you are physically sick as you won't be learning anything & probably causing you to think it's a terrible job, where as in fact if you give it A few flights you'll love it!
Apparently eating poisons will upset your vestibular system first (think head spins when drunk & laying down), so we have evolved to vomit in response to crazy vestibular vibes (correct, I *don't* know medical lingo).
Anyway the good news is that anybody can be trained to learn the experience. Just don't be physically sick as your body will (incorrectly) learn that is the best way of dealing with it.
The best thing ($$ dependent) is to knock off the flight if you are physically sick as you won't be learning anything & probably causing you to think it's a terrible job, where as in fact if you give it A few flights you'll love it!
Reminds me of a student in a C150 years ago, doing spinning with me. Didnt feel too good after the first one and we didnt have a sickbag onboard. Problem solved when l gave him his
coat from behind us. He filled that up, tied a knot in it and left it in the nearest bin after landing. Funnily enough we only did that one spin. All these posts are making me feel like calling Hughey on the great white phone. See ya.
coat from behind us. He filled that up, tied a knot in it and left it in the nearest bin after landing. Funnily enough we only did that one spin. All these posts are making me feel like calling Hughey on the great white phone. See ya.
