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Old 3rd Jan 2008, 01:41
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Thanks CASA

Well they've done it again.

Today my school received a large tube in the post from our regulator, enclosed were the following:

- 2 Full size colour posters covered in artsy BS and very small text down the bottom informing the reader of the introduction of new language proficiency standards. One poster is red, one is blue. They are exactly the same otherwise.

- 4 full colour brochures detailing the new standards. Again, one is blue one is red. The formats however are different yet contain exactly the same info

- 14 lollipops (yes, the sweet on a stick) each individually wrapped with a small sticker stating "CASA English Language Proficiency"


So they charge $40 to fax through a medical, $25 for a print out of updated licence, etc, etc...

Can anyone see any educational benefit in the above? Surely a black and white letter to the CFI would suffice.

P.S. The lollipops taste like sh!t
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Old 3rd Jan 2008, 05:56
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I think the "lollipops" were actually suppositories...you weren't supposed to eat them!
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Old 3rd Jan 2008, 06:17
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Me finx da english profesciantecy is being aimed at us ppruners

Sounds like some recent marketing graduate is putting their degree to good use...
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Typical Casa

Another complete waste of money by the regulator that gouge us for vaste sums of our hard earned at every opportunity! In a similar vein:

2 weeks before christmas I trotted into the Adelaide CASA office with my $100 to submit my ATPL application. After mentioning that I needed it back sooner rather than later I was told it would be there overnight. Not totally trusting the kind CASA lady I called to check the next day and was told it hadn't arrived. The next day the receipt for the $100 came in the post. Naturally I assumed they had received the application but called anyway just to check. Not received! 3 days later still not on the system! Call again and ask if it has arrived, it has (yay!) but not on the system! The lovely CASA people head off on holliday for the festive season while we pilots continue to work, no doubt flying most of them back to family and friends. I call when the CLARC office reopens on the second, still not on the system. Finally get upset and point out they dont get that many ATPL applications a year and that surely its not that hard. Next day get a call saying "we see you dont have a current ASIC and can not continue your application until criminal checks are carried out" I tell them I have an ASIC through a major airport and that I can forward the details. So sitting here stewing over the incompetence and clearly lazy attitude at the clarc office I have 2 questions:

Why does CASA get holidays over the Christmas period when all other aviation continues? Should have done all that illegal stuff I have always wanted to!

How on earth do these jokers not have an Australia wide database of ASIC holders that all providers can add to?

Security, accuracy, speed and CASA -- oxymorons!!!

Rant over!
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so.... a big promotion re english standards constitutes a "proper allocation of funds" ie affordable safety????

someone PLEASE let Dick Smith know about this one!!!
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c'mon CASA I know you blokes read this forum. What the hell is going on sending out this worthless paraphenalia and at the same time charging us exhorbitant rates for licencing services?

How on earth are we supposed to treat this orgainsation with any respect or credibility when they come up with these idiotic exercises?
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Old 3rd Jan 2008, 22:30
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Why does CASA get holidays over the Christmas period when all other aviation continues? Should have done all that illegal stuff I have always wanted to!
More to the point, why does CASA get holidays when they do SBA (Sweet Bugger All) thoughout the year?

It seems CASA are on vacation 365 days of the year. The lights are on, but nobody's home.

The question we need to ask is: what can we do to get a proper regulatory body?
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Old 3rd Jan 2008, 23:33
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Can we also presume that the posters telling us about proper English... were actually IN English?

ie: the people who probably NEED to know that they must lift their game re English, probably cannot read these posters ?
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so they should print them in ENGRISH

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All of this complaining is for nothing unless you ladies and gentlemen write a letter to your representative in Parliament, preferably the Senate explaining your grievance and asking them to kindly investigate further and question CASA management in the Senate Estimates Committee.

On the upside it might just result in a better CASA for all, on the downside you might be hated by CASA forever. I don't know, does CASA have a Little Black Book?
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Yes they do......it may not be a book, but some folk are known to have long memories.......and apply injustices accordingly.

List starts.............
1. Sprocket Check
2. FTDK
3. Jabawocky

J
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Old 3rd Jan 2008, 23:55
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does CASA have a Little Black Book?
Like Jabawocky said, with an addition......

Every Pilot in the country!!
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List revised

List starts.............
1. FTDK
2. Sprocket Check
3. Jabawocky
4. Pinky the pilot
5. All other pilots

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Old 4th Jan 2008, 02:32
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Fools of the highest order using government clout to intimidate those that pay their salary (the tax payer).
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Old 4th Jan 2008, 03:20
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Not that you're bitter or anything, Dr!!
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From an outsiders view of the incident, albeit a close ringside seat, I do not think it is about being bitter. Its more the stupidity of it all.

For goodness sake......all that Bullying Behaviour, over a series of events, that were technically a breach, but resolved, long before any harm could be done is a bit like getting a ticket for turning your indicator on a few metres later than the driving guide says you should before turning a corner, rather than the coppers searching out drink drivers!

Sure if during an audit they discove a simple anomoly like the Mad Dr was involved in, it would be far more prudent, and more encouraging to the offender to write a polite letter, make a phone call and just raise the matter as a "educational" experience. With a clean slate that is, a habitual offender may be another matter.

Its the gross waste of CASA resources, taxpayers funds and then pi$$ing what are generally good law abiding folk .........and not gaining one ounce of safety benefit from it. If the Boeing Sales Manager found his salesman was trying to sell 787's to the Timbucktoo Ultralight Club as a trainer.......would you not sack him!

The reality is that the regulator in this case (and a few others in that region) have been found wanting, and LHR is a classic example.

Lets see them looking for the "drink drivers" not the "3m late indicators" and when they come accross a simple matter like the one the Dr talks about, deal with it in a manor with which will encourage safety and a better image of the regulator.

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Old 4th Jan 2008, 05:10
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Language proficiency standards

More burden placed on an already struggling industry!

No wonder no one wants to take up aviation for fun or a career!
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Old 4th Jan 2008, 07:23
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FTDK, what goes around comes around my friend. Good things will come your way.

As for the letter writer....
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Talking

FTDK.............

Sounds as though you could probably do with a loan of my Glock 17 to sort out your problems, as per my suggestion to Jabawocky in post#24 at:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...=296859&page=2

Dunno about the good things coming your way if you do though, apart from a certain self-satisfying warm glowing feeling inside that you will have actually achieved something outrageously POSITIVE for Australian Aviation that the rest of us thought about, but weren't game to do!!!
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Chainsaw,

with the equipemt list and good logic you do remind me of VH-XXX

J

PS I know....you are not.......but some similarities
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