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hey, I submitted my application mid Nov got the invite. 15th JAn. was offered
22nd 29th and 1st of feb.
also 22. About to complete my CPL Theory is done. Failed the Flight test twice.
and how about yourself?
i also applied previously 2 other times. didn't meet the deadline for the autumn program. , and wasnt competitive enough for the 2007 level 1. (was already untertaking training)
22nd 29th and 1st of feb.
also 22. About to complete my CPL Theory is done. Failed the Flight test twice.
and how about yourself?
i also applied previously 2 other times. didn't meet the deadline for the autumn program. , and wasnt competitive enough for the 2007 level 1. (was already untertaking training)
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thx mate ... am 31, finished CPL about 8 months ago, working in a different industry, submitted about same time as you & nothing so far so I thk they have KB'd me, never applied before ..... good luck with your application
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Altimeters,
I'm not sure whether it's a requirement for anything else but it is for the Commercial program. I got the call up for autumn about 10 days ago and she asked me to make sure that I had 5 hours in command at night. Hence, I think it's not so much a pre-requisite as it is something you have to do before you start training... if that makes sense!
I'm not sure whether it's a requirement for anything else but it is for the Commercial program. I got the call up for autumn about 10 days ago and she asked me to make sure that I had 5 hours in command at night. Hence, I think it's not so much a pre-requisite as it is something you have to do before you start training... if that makes sense!
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here you go:
Are there any additional requirements I should be aware of if applying to the Commercial Program?
If offered a position on the Cadet Pilot Training Program it is a requirement that Commercial Program Cadets will have completed 5 hours Pilot in Command (PIC) at night prior to the commencement of training. You may wish to consider this when undertaking your Night Visual Flight Rules training.
Are there any additional requirements I should be aware of if applying to the Commercial Program?
If offered a position on the Cadet Pilot Training Program it is a requirement that Commercial Program Cadets will have completed 5 hours Pilot in Command (PIC) at night prior to the commencement of training. You may wish to consider this when undertaking your Night Visual Flight Rules training.
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It's somewhat ambiguous but my reading is that the phrase "if offered a position" means that the 5 hours night PIC is a prerequisite for the training and not a prerequisite for applying... if that makes sense!
There was no stage within the recruitment process itself where they could ascertain whether you satisfied the requirment. They ask for the last three pages of your logbook but that wouldn't be conclusive if you'd done the time a year ago.
There was no stage within the recruitment process itself where they could ascertain whether you satisfied the requirment. They ask for the last three pages of your logbook but that wouldn't be conclusive if you'd done the time a year ago.
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Hey guys,
noticed a few of you saying you are going for the commercial cadets route.
I applied and was called about it, asked if i had to pay any training money and I was no longer interested after I heard you still have to fork out 42,000$ relocate to adelaide for training / re sit atpl's. Regardless of already holding a CPL ME/ IR / ATPL!
I weighed up my options are it would be cheaper to buy the hours and apply as direct entry with 500hrs! lol!
Did you guys know and are prepared to do this? seems crazy to me.
50k debt is enough for me!
Steve - o
noticed a few of you saying you are going for the commercial cadets route.
I applied and was called about it, asked if i had to pay any training money and I was no longer interested after I heard you still have to fork out 42,000$ relocate to adelaide for training / re sit atpl's. Regardless of already holding a CPL ME/ IR / ATPL!
I weighed up my options are it would be cheaper to buy the hours and apply as direct entry with 500hrs! lol!
Did you guys know and are prepared to do this? seems crazy to me.
50k debt is enough for me!
Steve - o
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ksa5223,
When you say that you applied for the commercial program and were 'called about it' are you implying that you're application was successful or did you have this discussion much earlier in the process? The reason I ask is that I'm surprised that you would expend any energy on the process without knowing what the deal is so-to-speak.
More generally, I get the general gist of what you're saying - and it is true to say that you can fly your way from CPL to 500TT in less that $42,000. Nonetheless, I have have to agree with FP_Ace in that a) it is very unusual for a CPL to build hours without getting a job; and b) that, even in today's environment, the bare minimums are unlikely to get you in via direct entry.
From what I've gathered anecdotally and through the recruitment process, the mainline cadetships are popular not because they are cheap or cost effective but because they effectively guarantee you a place within the group and, perhaps more importantly, save you the trouble of going through the recruitment process further down the track. I guess it really comes down to when/where you want to join the rat race.
When you say that you applied for the commercial program and were 'called about it' are you implying that you're application was successful or did you have this discussion much earlier in the process? The reason I ask is that I'm surprised that you would expend any energy on the process without knowing what the deal is so-to-speak.
More generally, I get the general gist of what you're saying - and it is true to say that you can fly your way from CPL to 500TT in less that $42,000. Nonetheless, I have have to agree with FP_Ace in that a) it is very unusual for a CPL to build hours without getting a job; and b) that, even in today's environment, the bare minimums are unlikely to get you in via direct entry.
From what I've gathered anecdotally and through the recruitment process, the mainline cadetships are popular not because they are cheap or cost effective but because they effectively guarantee you a place within the group and, perhaps more importantly, save you the trouble of going through the recruitment process further down the track. I guess it really comes down to when/where you want to join the rat race.
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Originally Posted by FP_ACE
That's because it is intended for bare cpl holder's and not fully qualfied Pilots.Otherwise it would just defeat the purpose of direct entry...And please don't tell me you're really thinking about buying your self to 500TT?Not that you would stand a small chance of getting in with those times anyway.
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Originally Posted by cuzda101
ksa5223,
From what I've gathered anecdotally and through the recruitment process, the mainline cadetships are popular not because they are cheap or cost effective but because they effectively guarantee you a place within the group and, perhaps more importantly, save you the trouble of going through the recruitment process further down the track. I guess it really comes down to when/where you want to join the rat race.
From what I've gathered anecdotally and through the recruitment process, the mainline cadetships are popular not because they are cheap or cost effective but because they effectively guarantee you a place within the group and, perhaps more importantly, save you the trouble of going through the recruitment process further down the track. I guess it really comes down to when/where you want to join the rat race.
I'll have to give the Qlink Traineeships a try.
Oh what to do?
Have to agree with KSA
Have just been offered stage 2 invite for cadets but am now rethinking due to the 42k expense and now with Qantaslink traineeship. The bugger is in still not hearing from QL yet in order to make a better decision. Any suggestions? ie. Hold out for the QL traineeship or go for the cadetship stage 2?
Have just been offered stage 2 invite for cadets but am now rethinking due to the 42k expense and now with Qantaslink traineeship. The bugger is in still not hearing from QL yet in order to make a better decision. Any suggestions? ie. Hold out for the QL traineeship or go for the cadetship stage 2?
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A rejection of the mainline cadetship after Stage 2 certainly makes more sense if you throw the QL traineeship into the equation but I think the principles remain the same - that is, the difference between the mainline cadetship and any other cadetship is that it offers you theoretical progression into mainline once you've done your training and your Industry Placement (coincidentally with QL).
In other words, doing the QL traineeship - on my reading - will leave you at the same stage as other QL Pilots who complain about the lack of progression to mainline.
In other words, doing the QL traineeship - on my reading - will leave you at the same stage as other QL Pilots who complain about the lack of progression to mainline.
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Interview this week
G'day 21391401,
Sorry for taking so long to reply. I have the interview, oha and skills test this week. Still been trying to get my NVFR! I've got one more consolidation flight, and then the test. All I need is 2 more nights of flying, but with this weather, it's still cutting it fine.
I've got 2.1 command, so I should be able to get some circuits in to finish the rest.
Talk soon, and I'll let you know how I go.
Nadsy.
Sorry for taking so long to reply. I have the interview, oha and skills test this week. Still been trying to get my NVFR! I've got one more consolidation flight, and then the test. All I need is 2 more nights of flying, but with this weather, it's still cutting it fine.
I've got 2.1 command, so I should be able to get some circuits in to finish the rest.
Talk soon, and I'll let you know how I go.
Nadsy.