Grow Balls We Must!
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For those of you sitting on the fence, here is some encouraging news.
On Friday calls went out from V Australia. I missed the call but had a voice message saying the recruitment team would be in contact within 1 week. Can't be 100% sure but judging from another thread, the calls were invites to interviews early next year.
So I'm logically guessing I have one also. This is a great surprise to me because I specifically indicated that I was NOT willing to pay for endorsement costs.
I'm sure they will be betting they will convince me otherwise. But the fact that they called me anyway is a very good sign. If they had enough saying yes then why would they bother?
Saying no will NOT exclude you from an interview.
Saying yes therefore, gives you no initial advantage, you are just asking to be raped. Grow some balls.
I will not crack. Stand with me and we'll push this thing over. We're so close!
On Friday calls went out from V Australia. I missed the call but had a voice message saying the recruitment team would be in contact within 1 week. Can't be 100% sure but judging from another thread, the calls were invites to interviews early next year.
So I'm logically guessing I have one also. This is a great surprise to me because I specifically indicated that I was NOT willing to pay for endorsement costs.
I'm sure they will be betting they will convince me otherwise. But the fact that they called me anyway is a very good sign. If they had enough saying yes then why would they bother?
Saying no will NOT exclude you from an interview.
Saying yes therefore, gives you no initial advantage, you are just asking to be raped. Grow some balls.
I will not crack. Stand with me and we'll push this thing over. We're so close!
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You have my 100% support. 
This disgraceful act should never have come in to place and we should not allow it to continue. We DO have a degree of control and with the current decrease of available pilots also comes an increase in the percentage of available pilots NOT willing to pay. With growing support from other GA pilots, it will soon be abolished. Shame on the last group/person to pay.
Don't let it be you.
This disgraceful act should never have come in to place and we should not allow it to continue. We DO have a degree of control and with the current decrease of available pilots also comes an increase in the percentage of available pilots NOT willing to pay. With growing support from other GA pilots, it will soon be abolished. Shame on the last group/person to pay.
Don't let it be you.
Good job FB...
I flatly told them "no, I won't pay for an endorsement" when they called me the other day and he said ok...told me to expect a call soon for an interview/testing date.
They're calling around trying to find out how many people are willing to pay.
SAY NO!!!! If everyone say's "No, I won't pay" then what are they going to do?
It's a market research phone call people, now is the time to push this over!!
I flatly told them "no, I won't pay for an endorsement" when they called me the other day and he said ok...told me to expect a call soon for an interview/testing date.
They're calling around trying to find out how many people are willing to pay.
SAY NO!!!! If everyone say's "No, I won't pay" then what are they going to do?
It's a market research phone call people, now is the time to push this over!!
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Then I guess you brave lads won't want to hear about the enormously experienced 737 Captain that VB interviewed recently?
The interview was over...interviewers were getting up and packing their things, smiling, relaxed etc...one asked as an aside how my mate felt about paying for a type rating, he presumes for the jungle jet. When he answered in the negative the mood changed and they all sat back down again and grilled him some more about why and how he would feel flying with people who had paid. His answer was he had absolutely no problem with people who had he just preferred not to himself.
He was not offered employment with VB and remains at his current offshore employer.
Yes thing are swinging back in our favour...but dig your heels in at your own risk.
The interview was over...interviewers were getting up and packing their things, smiling, relaxed etc...one asked as an aside how my mate felt about paying for a type rating, he presumes for the jungle jet. When he answered in the negative the mood changed and they all sat back down again and grilled him some more about why and how he would feel flying with people who had paid. His answer was he had absolutely no problem with people who had he just preferred not to himself.
He was not offered employment with VB and remains at his current offshore employer.
Yes thing are swinging back in our favour...but dig your heels in at your own risk.
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CC QUOTE...."Yes thing are swinging back in our favour...but dig your heels in at your own risk"
CC....interesting for sure,and it is similar to a situation I found myself in.....reckon it boils down to the type of person you are and the principals by which you live and conduct yourself....
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....my attitude is...'I was looking when I found this job,and Ill continue to look"......as with your 737 mate..whom I might add,admire for his stand regarding his principals.There are those who would say he was a fool to let a great position slip out of his hands,because of a twisted belief...(he obviously never really needed it)...each to his own.
We all pay a price when it comes to obtaining a position with an Airline...me when I first started always felt like a pawn on the board,now Ive learned to be a player,the relationship between pilot and company has to change....its a learning curve,and I hope we realize that flying A/C for companys is not a one way street,and the cost of protecting your buiness,is to train your pilots to the highest standards and that cost should be paid by the company,because that is the cost(s) of doing buiness...
CC....interesting for sure,and it is similar to a situation I found myself in.....reckon it boils down to the type of person you are and the principals by which you live and conduct yourself....
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....my attitude is...'I was looking when I found this job,and Ill continue to look"......as with your 737 mate..whom I might add,admire for his stand regarding his principals.There are those who would say he was a fool to let a great position slip out of his hands,because of a twisted belief...(he obviously never really needed it)...each to his own.
We all pay a price when it comes to obtaining a position with an Airline...me when I first started always felt like a pawn on the board,now Ive learned to be a player,the relationship between pilot and company has to change....its a learning curve,and I hope we realize that flying A/C for companys is not a one way street,and the cost of protecting your buiness,is to train your pilots to the highest standards and that cost should be paid by the company,because that is the cost(s) of doing buiness...
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Is there really a pilot shortage?
Most of the comments on this thread are based on the assumption that there really is a pilot shortage!!
I'm not sure there is one ... yet.
My thread here http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=304183 aims to find out if we really do have a pilot shortage based on FACTS and TRENDS.
Check it out if you wish, Cheers.
I'm not sure there is one ... yet.
My thread here http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=304183 aims to find out if we really do have a pilot shortage based on FACTS and TRENDS.
Check it out if you wish, Cheers.
Chimbu I do not understand why a
would need to pay for an endorsement?
Surely they would not be stupid enough to assign an experienced 737 Captain to a jungle jet?
enormously experienced 737 Captain that VB interviewed recently?
Surely they would not be stupid enough to assign an experienced 737 Captain to a jungle jet?
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Airlines In The Brace Position
Very interesting read…
http://www.newsweek.com/id/78116/page/1
Grow some balls boys.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/78116/page/1
And pilot pay keeps rising. After a two-year negotiation, Hong Kong's Dragonair offered its pilots a 20 percent raise in mid-December, affirming that pilots are in the driver's seat.
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I constantly hear of the pilot shortage, and have been hearing of it for 30 years, but when I look at the contract agencies' vacancies, I just don't believe it. Very few vacancies there compared with a few years ago when there wasn't such a desperate shortage.
