Air Pacific - Bright & Rosy?
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HUMPTY DUMPTY sitting on the TOP
I agree no less with you Bulabandit. Its unfortunate that the management can only work so hard to frustrate the A/P employees by doing silly things but at the same time can't even acknowledge the rapid increase in training costs that the company has unnecessarily incurred due to their short sightedness and utter ignorence. I can only guess that the Bean counter sitting at the top is either not getting properly informed of what is happening down below or he's got his head buried in the sand hoping that his stooges can pull something good out of the bag....
Safe flying GG..(I mean girls & guys)
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hey bula bandit ... Did you read my article in the papers to john cambell .. as usual I got no reply ... hi
This is in reply to John Campbell’s article on pilots leaving for better pay in the Middle East, F/T 29th/08. No airlines in the Middle East pay USD200,000 tax free a year (USD$16,666 per month)as quoted by Mr Campbell. Also he should work his calculations again because 5 pilots leaving out of 102 pilots is 4.9% of his pilots on the payroll not 7%. Exaggeration seems to be his nature. Log onto the Emirates Airlines website and you will find out the starting salary for First Officers on the Boeing 777 (entry level) is approximately USD7,000 tax free per month. The other airline with ex-Air Pacific pilots is Oman Air which pays its pilots approximately FJD9,000 tax free per month for a First Officer on the Boeing 737. Mr. Campbell failed to mention that Air Pacific has also lost pilots to Virgin Blue of Australia. Virgin Blue pays AUD110,000 per year for a first officer on the Boeing 737 (entry level).
In addition to these salaries are health covers, school fees and accommodation. Mr. Campbell and Air Pacific believes that the remuneration for Air Pacific pilots is attractive. I am told the starting salary for Boeing 737 First Officers is approximately FJD50,000 to FJD55,000. Does he expect a logical thinking person with family to stay in Air Pacific and work for peanuts. Mr. Campbell continues to hoodwink the public on this issue. Can Air Pacific tell us what they have done to try and retain the local pilots? I believe they continue to delay any sort of negotiations with the pilots union for an increase in remuneration. Passengers pay the same air fare with Virgin Blue, Qantas and Air New Zealand, yet you compare what salaries their staff are paid (cabin crew, engineers, etc) in comparison to Air Pacific.
As a matter of interest, Virgin Blue Cabin Crew get paid more then the Air Pacific pilots on the Boeing 737 and they have cheaper fares then Air Pacific. There is a global shortage of pilots in the world today and Air Pacific will continue to lose more local and experienced pilots. I believe Air Pacific also has problems retaining expatriate pilots. They pay expatriate First Officer’s NZD500 per day and they work close to 20 days a month and earn NZD7,000-NZD10,000 a month and that’s tax fee! Yet Air Pacific continues to say they cannot compete. Management continues to deprive the local pilots and other skilled staff of their real worth. Air Pacific has lost many pilots and will continue to lose more if they don’t wake up and face the music. Cabin Crew and Engineers will be next. Fiji was cheap labour, but not anymore. There is a saying Mr John Campbell “when you pay peanuts you get monkeys”
Is the real reason there is no urgent concern about pilots leaving Air Pacific is the long term plan to fly Jet Star (Qantas low cost carrier) here, where Air Pacific will just be a name brand on our ticket and not our island in the sky.
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Pilots For Better Pay
This is in reply to John Campbell’s article on pilots leaving for better pay in the Middle East, F/T 29th/08. No airlines in the Middle East pay USD200,000 tax free a year (USD$16,666 per month)as quoted by Mr Campbell. Also he should work his calculations again because 5 pilots leaving out of 102 pilots is 4.9% of his pilots on the payroll not 7%. Exaggeration seems to be his nature. Log onto the Emirates Airlines website and you will find out the starting salary for First Officers on the Boeing 777 (entry level) is approximately USD7,000 tax free per month. The other airline with ex-Air Pacific pilots is Oman Air which pays its pilots approximately FJD9,000 tax free per month for a First Officer on the Boeing 737. Mr. Campbell failed to mention that Air Pacific has also lost pilots to Virgin Blue of Australia. Virgin Blue pays AUD110,000 per year for a first officer on the Boeing 737 (entry level).
In addition to these salaries are health covers, school fees and accommodation. Mr. Campbell and Air Pacific believes that the remuneration for Air Pacific pilots is attractive. I am told the starting salary for Boeing 737 First Officers is approximately FJD50,000 to FJD55,000. Does he expect a logical thinking person with family to stay in Air Pacific and work for peanuts. Mr. Campbell continues to hoodwink the public on this issue. Can Air Pacific tell us what they have done to try and retain the local pilots? I believe they continue to delay any sort of negotiations with the pilots union for an increase in remuneration. Passengers pay the same air fare with Virgin Blue, Qantas and Air New Zealand, yet you compare what salaries their staff are paid (cabin crew, engineers, etc) in comparison to Air Pacific.
As a matter of interest, Virgin Blue Cabin Crew get paid more then the Air Pacific pilots on the Boeing 737 and they have cheaper fares then Air Pacific. There is a global shortage of pilots in the world today and Air Pacific will continue to lose more local and experienced pilots. I believe Air Pacific also has problems retaining expatriate pilots. They pay expatriate First Officer’s NZD500 per day and they work close to 20 days a month and earn NZD7,000-NZD10,000 a month and that’s tax fee! Yet Air Pacific continues to say they cannot compete. Management continues to deprive the local pilots and other skilled staff of their real worth. Air Pacific has lost many pilots and will continue to lose more if they don’t wake up and face the music. Cabin Crew and Engineers will be next. Fiji was cheap labour, but not anymore. There is a saying Mr John Campbell “when you pay peanuts you get monkeys”
Is the real reason there is no urgent concern about pilots leaving Air Pacific is the long term plan to fly Jet Star (Qantas low cost carrier) here, where Air Pacific will just be a name brand on our ticket and not our island in the sky.
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Last man TURN THE LIGHTS OUT
In addition to last weeks Contract Pilots resignations(x3), we have 4 (FOUR) local pilots off for interviews next month.
Two will be learning basic Arabic and the other two getting jobs closer to their families residing in AUST.
NOTE; the exodus is from the 737 fleet. Something smelly about horses? (Gee Gees)
MOCE VINAKA
Two will be learning basic Arabic and the other two getting jobs closer to their families residing in AUST.
NOTE; the exodus is from the 737 fleet. Something smelly about horses? (Gee Gees)
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Pilots exodus
Bula everyone
Yes people everyones leaving. Only the ones that have family connections will stay. The world is at our feet as we speak but Air pacific thinks otherwise. They still think that they are the emirates of the south pacific. I wrote an article in response to JC comments in the fiji times dated 1st september but he never replied ... in case you guys missed it i have it below ...enjoy .. i will be writing another one again soon
Loss of pilots
This is in reply to John Campbell's statements on pilots leaving for the
Middle East, (FT 29/08).
No airline in the Middle East pays $USD200,000 (F$327,439)) tax free a year
or (USD$16,666 or F$27,285 per month) as quoted by Mr Campbell.
He should work his calculations again because five pilots leaving out of 102
pilots is 4.9 per cent of pilots on his payroll and not 7 per cent.
Exaggeration seems to be his nature.
Log onto the Emirates Airlines website and you will find out the starting
salary for first officers on the Boeing 777 (entry level) is approximately
US$7000 (F$11,460) tax-free per month.
The other airline with ex-Air Pacific pilots is Oman Air, which pays its
pilots approximately FJ$9000 tax-free per month for a first officer on the
Boeing 737.
Mr Campbell failed to mention that Air Pacific has lost pilots to Virgin
Blue of Australia, which pays A$110,000 (F$147,602) per year for a first
officer on the Boeing 737 (entry level).
Additionally, these packages include health cover, school fees and
accommodation. Mr Campbell and Air Pacific believe the remuneration for Air
Pacific
pilots is attractive but I am reliably informed the starting salary for
Boeing 737 First Officers is about F$50,000 to F$55,000.
Does he expect a logical thinking person with family to stay in Air Pacific
and work for peanuts.
Mr Campbell continues to hoodwink the public on this issue.
Can Air Pacific tell us what it has done to try and retain local pilots?
I believe it continues to delay any sort of negotiations with the pilots
union for an increase in remuneration.
Passengers pay the same air fare with Virgin Blue, Qantas and Air New
Zealand, yet you compare what salaries their staff are paid (cabin crew,
engineers, etc) in comparison to Air Pacific.
Interestingly, Virgin Blue cabin crew is paid more than Air Pacific pilots
on the Boeing 737, despite the fact that their fares are cheaper than Air
Pacific's.
Air Pacific pays expatriate First Officers NZ$500 (F$575) per day. These
pilots work close to 20 days a month and earn NZ$7000-NZ$10,000
(F$8057-$11.571) a month tax-free.
Yet Air Pacific continues to say it cannot compete.
Management continues to deprive local pilots and other skilled staff of
their real worth.
Air Pacific has lost many pilots and will continue to lose more if it does
not wake up and face the music.
Cabin crew and engineers will be next.
There is a saying Mr Campbell that when "you pay peanuts, you get monkeys".
One wonders whether the real reason there is no urgent concern about pilots
leaving Air Pacific is because of a long-term plan to fly Jet Star (Qantas
low-cost carrier) where Air Pacific will just be a name brand on tickets and
not our island in the sky.
James Fong
Brisbane
Yes people everyones leaving. Only the ones that have family connections will stay. The world is at our feet as we speak but Air pacific thinks otherwise. They still think that they are the emirates of the south pacific. I wrote an article in response to JC comments in the fiji times dated 1st september but he never replied ... in case you guys missed it i have it below ...enjoy .. i will be writing another one again soon
Loss of pilots
This is in reply to John Campbell's statements on pilots leaving for the
Middle East, (FT 29/08).
No airline in the Middle East pays $USD200,000 (F$327,439)) tax free a year
or (USD$16,666 or F$27,285 per month) as quoted by Mr Campbell.
He should work his calculations again because five pilots leaving out of 102
pilots is 4.9 per cent of pilots on his payroll and not 7 per cent.
Exaggeration seems to be his nature.
Log onto the Emirates Airlines website and you will find out the starting
salary for first officers on the Boeing 777 (entry level) is approximately
US$7000 (F$11,460) tax-free per month.
The other airline with ex-Air Pacific pilots is Oman Air, which pays its
pilots approximately FJ$9000 tax-free per month for a first officer on the
Boeing 737.
Mr Campbell failed to mention that Air Pacific has lost pilots to Virgin
Blue of Australia, which pays A$110,000 (F$147,602) per year for a first
officer on the Boeing 737 (entry level).
Additionally, these packages include health cover, school fees and
accommodation. Mr Campbell and Air Pacific believe the remuneration for Air
Pacific
pilots is attractive but I am reliably informed the starting salary for
Boeing 737 First Officers is about F$50,000 to F$55,000.
Does he expect a logical thinking person with family to stay in Air Pacific
and work for peanuts.
Mr Campbell continues to hoodwink the public on this issue.
Can Air Pacific tell us what it has done to try and retain local pilots?
I believe it continues to delay any sort of negotiations with the pilots
union for an increase in remuneration.
Passengers pay the same air fare with Virgin Blue, Qantas and Air New
Zealand, yet you compare what salaries their staff are paid (cabin crew,
engineers, etc) in comparison to Air Pacific.
Interestingly, Virgin Blue cabin crew is paid more than Air Pacific pilots
on the Boeing 737, despite the fact that their fares are cheaper than Air
Pacific's.
Air Pacific pays expatriate First Officers NZ$500 (F$575) per day. These
pilots work close to 20 days a month and earn NZ$7000-NZ$10,000
(F$8057-$11.571) a month tax-free.
Yet Air Pacific continues to say it cannot compete.
Management continues to deprive local pilots and other skilled staff of
their real worth.
Air Pacific has lost many pilots and will continue to lose more if it does
not wake up and face the music.
Cabin crew and engineers will be next.
There is a saying Mr Campbell that when "you pay peanuts, you get monkeys".
One wonders whether the real reason there is no urgent concern about pilots
leaving Air Pacific is because of a long-term plan to fly Jet Star (Qantas
low-cost carrier) where Air Pacific will just be a name brand on tickets and
not our island in the sky.
James Fong
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John Campbell's comments and recent behaviour in respect of his pilots and selection of executive managers (or more to the point his failure to select an EGM Ops) indicate the coup may have occurred in the wrong building. It should have been FJ's head office.
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Where art thou Tony?
What ever happened to Tony W?
I bet he is off in the Canadian woods spend his 'Harmony Bond' money - you know the $2.0million that was paid over to Harmony for codeshare HNL-YVR just a week before Harmony went bust.
WHO DID the 'Due dilligence"?
Now what is the Fat duckling doing about that?
I bet he is off in the Canadian woods spend his 'Harmony Bond' money - you know the $2.0million that was paid over to Harmony for codeshare HNL-YVR just a week before Harmony went bust.
WHO DID the 'Due dilligence"?
Now what is the Fat duckling doing about that?
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Holy Sh*t
Folks,
FJ could be a great place if people grew up!
Mgt here is all 'back door' work. Just heard the 737 Fleet Mgr is asking F/Os for dirt on Contract Capts. Dont know whats his problem. All the pilots (Capts and F/Os) here are of a good standard. BUT morale, well thats something you read about. Certainly none here. It seems that any Capt who stands his ground or queries something is GUILTY of the most serious crime on earth and will be shot on sight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 737 Fleet Capt said in a meeting a few months ago-
-"if we insist on flying to every piece of legislation, then we will not be
flying to alot of the places we do. These countries cannot afford
the level of services that exist elsewhere on our network. The people
will not have the service they need and many of us will be without a
job".
Thank God (In sha la) that there are other airlines out there looking for 'good HONEST pilots'.
FJ could be a great place if people grew up!
Mgt here is all 'back door' work. Just heard the 737 Fleet Mgr is asking F/Os for dirt on Contract Capts. Dont know whats his problem. All the pilots (Capts and F/Os) here are of a good standard. BUT morale, well thats something you read about. Certainly none here. It seems that any Capt who stands his ground or queries something is GUILTY of the most serious crime on earth and will be shot on sight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 737 Fleet Capt said in a meeting a few months ago-
-"if we insist on flying to every piece of legislation, then we will not be
flying to alot of the places we do. These countries cannot afford
the level of services that exist elsewhere on our network. The people
will not have the service they need and many of us will be without a
job".
Thank God (In sha la) that there are other airlines out there looking for 'good HONEST pilots'.
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Well things have changed since my time there. GG never mentioned that sort of rubbish during my very pleasant stint at FJ.
In fact, it was quite the opposite. When I once landed after almost 8 hours from HNL with the statutory reserves, but barely, he called me and said he'd like to see more fuel in the tanks on landing, and if that meant a diversion, then that would be more desirable. You don't get any more conservative than that.
I was always impressed with the pilot standard, both expat and local, and I never had to query a maintenance issue.
In fact, it was quite the opposite. When I once landed after almost 8 hours from HNL with the statutory reserves, but barely, he called me and said he'd like to see more fuel in the tanks on landing, and if that meant a diversion, then that would be more desirable. You don't get any more conservative than that.
I was always impressed with the pilot standard, both expat and local, and I never had to query a maintenance issue.
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Vote of 'NO CONFIDENCE'
Ladies, Gents, fellow aviators,
We are gathered here on this wonderful world for what?
- to be screwed by mgt when and where THEY like
- to be held on a thread awaiting their almighty call
- to serve them without question.
There is ONE very important FACT that has NOT been brought to the attention of the congregation:-
Ladies, Gentlemen. Fellow aviators,
It is my duty to inform you that 'Paris Hiltons Uncle' has the dubious honour of being given a 100% VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE by FALPA (Fiji Pilots Union). This arose after the dismissal incident of a 767 F/O some yrs ago. The dismissal incident eventually ended in legal action where the Hotel namesake was in the witness box. The Judge commented "I cannot accept your testimony". Now that is a polite way of saying - YOU ARE A FU~KI# LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!
It is also some note that the Hotel does now NOT reside in Fiji, The suburbs of Sydney are more to his liking. However, he will make all attempts to not allow other Fiji Nationals to reside outside Fiji. What you say - 1 rule for me, other Rule for U.
Definetly NOT a 'FIT & PROPER PERSON'. But why/how does he still suvive?
Inshala - It is NOT the will of A..
We are gathered here on this wonderful world for what?
- to be screwed by mgt when and where THEY like
- to be held on a thread awaiting their almighty call
- to serve them without question.
There is ONE very important FACT that has NOT been brought to the attention of the congregation:-
Ladies, Gentlemen. Fellow aviators,
It is my duty to inform you that 'Paris Hiltons Uncle' has the dubious honour of being given a 100% VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE by FALPA (Fiji Pilots Union). This arose after the dismissal incident of a 767 F/O some yrs ago. The dismissal incident eventually ended in legal action where the Hotel namesake was in the witness box. The Judge commented "I cannot accept your testimony". Now that is a polite way of saying - YOU ARE A FU~KI# LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!
It is also some note that the Hotel does now NOT reside in Fiji, The suburbs of Sydney are more to his liking. However, he will make all attempts to not allow other Fiji Nationals to reside outside Fiji. What you say - 1 rule for me, other Rule for U.
Definetly NOT a 'FIT & PROPER PERSON'. But why/how does he still suvive?
Inshala - It is NOT the will of A..
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100% VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE 737capt
I don't think this is correct............."NOT" all members voted against.....not all members voted...period.
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Sharman,
Dont waste your time with the island in the sky (FJ). There is a lovely 737NG op here in Oman. Muscat is very western. Good housing and facilities - eg. schools, social life etc. www.omanair.
See you soon.
Dont waste your time with the island in the sky (FJ). There is a lovely 737NG op here in Oman. Muscat is very western. Good housing and facilities - eg. schools, social life etc. www.omanair.
See you soon.
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Varies - but no more than 3. Most nights back by midnight. Occassionally get the regular all night to Indian sub cont, but thats no big deal.
Nearly half the Air Pac 737 pilots are either hear at Oman, Emirates, or Qatar. Another 2 at Emirates interview this week.
This should tell you the 'Real truth' of our home country airline. Its not the acft, its not the operation, MUST be the MGT.
Moce Vinaka.
Nearly half the Air Pac 737 pilots are either hear at Oman, Emirates, or Qatar. Another 2 at Emirates interview this week.
This should tell you the 'Real truth' of our home country airline. Its not the acft, its not the operation, MUST be the MGT.
Moce Vinaka.
is he still there, doesnt anyone have the guts to speak out and have him thrown back to London or back to his motorbike cop job.