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Old 29th Sep 2011, 06:26
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Good on you Miatamad!
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 11:19
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Great thread! It would be even better with the footage. Ahhhh...I miss flying with the RNZAF.

Long time no see Kiwi Chick, welcome back!
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So it was, doh!
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So how are you these days Miatamad? Any ongoing issues from the ejection or is it all good?
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Hope you go well Miatamad. BZ (Navy Slang for 'Well Done')
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Video has surfaced on you tube.
Actual ejection is after the 5 minute mark

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Wonder how long that will last until it gets taken down??

Great result in the end though... all lived to tell the tail apart from Falcon20 of course!

Eject eject eject.... oh wait Steve don't eject yet!! Man I think I may have been gone after he said the first "eject"!!!
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Old 11th May 2012, 04:58
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What an incredible video, you can sure feel how 'Steve' must have felt when the pilot started saying "we're unable to maintain height"...
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Amazing video.

Eject eject eject.... oh wait Steve don't eject yet!! Man I think I may have been gone after he said the first "eject"!!!
I bet if I was there he would have been talking to himself at the second 'eject'.
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Old 11th May 2012, 13:04
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Eject eject eject.... oh wait Steve don't eject yet!! Man I think I may have been gone after he said the first "eject"!!!
I don't hear that line anywhere in the vid. I make it:


Yeah

Ah we're goin alright.

You want to try and just to ... turn us to the right a little?

Right, around, keep it commin round ..

OK keep commin, keep commin around

Here it goes that there it goes .. all flat, all flat, all flat and then just about NOW there's a hill there, little hill there

yeah
- aim at that hill,

Fly me to that hill.

Fills me with the utmost in confidence [Obviously a big BANG here - not heard on the intercom tape ]
FCUKIN HELL - I HAVE CONTROL I HAVE CONTROL

JESUS CHRIST STEVE

This is not good

No, we're right, we're right.

...

OK Steve, we've got a severe engine vibration, mate.

Uh huh

OK Things are not looking good

Uh huh

"Kaitaia traffic, MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY Falcon two zero, severe engine vibration t ... hidden through uh Kaitaia"

OK RPM, (Pitch RPT?)

OK Steve whe.. where abouts are ya?

About, uh about 10 miles north of Kaitaia, Church.

North of Kaitaia, OK I've got a Kaitaia plate out, elevation of 270 feet, NDB's "KT" 2..3..8

*mutter* 2..3..8

[Morse code "Kilo Tango" begins]

Fcukin Hell, What is that NOISE?

Are you with me Steve?

Yeah, I'm Just ****tin' myself, quite quietly
What are the symptoms first?
Say again Church?
Go ahead the symptoms?

OK RPM stood at uh 78%, sorry 68%, I've got a severe rumbling noise. I can feel the vibration through the whole aircraft - it's an extremely loud grumbling roaring sort of noise.

Roger that, OK maintain absolute or not?

Affirmative but, when I put on more power the noise gets worse and worse

Roger leave it at a minimum power setting, 85% is probably the best for er non vibes. We'll just see if you can get to [hurs] Kaitaia with what you've got at the moment

Affirm Church. Slowing down drastically but I'm actually not be able to holdmaintain maintain height

OK Whereabouts are you now?

OK Steve just north of Kaitaia ah ... north west of Kaitaia

West of Kaitaia, Right were comming down 90 mile beach. Probably about 10 miles to the north, 250 feet

OK I'm inland of the coast

...

All right there, Steve?

Yeah, I'm just going to shut up and let you fly the plane, OK
All right

Oh RPM is good

Anything changes cosmo, I'll tell you .... You just keep flying.

OK Church I can't get any more RPM, I've only got 72%

I'm slowing down, I'm unable to maintain height

Roger where are you now?

Just north of Kaitaia

Understood

[Alarm]

Now below 100 feet

Right, I'm 12 miles to the north of Kaitaia

OK now West of Kaitaia, north west of Kaitaia.

OK Church I'm going down, the jet is not going to go, I'm ejecting ejecting

I'd like to [dum] eject seats
In position.
Righto Steve, that understood

EJECTING EJECTING NOW [This comment on the radio, rather than a command to eject, I would think]

OK Steve? On command I WANT YOU TO EJECT, MATE? YOU READY WITH ME?

OK, GET READY
EJECT EJECT NOW!

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Old 11th May 2012, 13:41
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Eject eject eject.... oh wait Steve don't eject yet!! Man I think I may have been gone after he said the first "eject"!!!
Sounds like that between 5:05 and 5:08
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That's this bit:

I'd like to [dum] eject seats
In position.
Righto Steve, that understood
The "In position" comment is said at the same time as the sentence above it (so they overlay each other) - but it's not an eject command, as well as I can hear.

should of
should have - sorry, that's a real bugbear of mine!

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Old 11th May 2012, 14:51
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Mr Formerly Known As A380 Driver says:
The velocity vector in the HUD was never showing he was going to make the field. He should of ejected earlier.
Yes we know that now, as does the driver, however having been in a rather stressful pre-ejection position myself, one can be a little reluctant and you start to think "what have I missed?" and you can hope things improve.

In my case, I did miss something, it was rectified, and I landed just fine (albeit with brown striped jocks).

Force's case was a great lesson for us who followed him, however who's to say that I wouldn't have done the same thing if I hadn't learnt from his accident?
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Old 11th May 2012, 22:06
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Checkboard... jeez man, don't you have anything better to do??
Listen again... what is "Ahhh don't eject, Steve, don't eject" at 5:07.
I never intended to offer an transcript, listened only once, and recalled what I "heard".
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Old 12th May 2012, 06:10
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The velocity vector in the HUD was never showing he was going to make the field. He should of ejected earlier.
With hindsight - yes. But let's not arm chair quarter back too much! The guy was straight of pilot course, and this was pretty much a BRAND NEW jet. I was on the Board of Inquiry, and wrote that the ejection decision had been made at the last possible minute, but you have to have sympathy for why the guy hung in their until the last possible moment.

I'm also not convinced by some of the remarks of posters here saying they would have been gone on the first mention of the E word. An ejection is a very violent process, physical injury is to be expected. Big D for anyone!

For information, the jet was very intact thanks to its muddy, slow speed impact. Sat outside the Ohakea Museum for years.
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Old 12th May 2012, 07:30
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I'm also not convinced by some of the remarks of posters here saying they would have been gone on the first mention of the E word. An ejection is a very violent process, physical injury is to be expected. Big D for anyone!
Yeah... fair call!! Easy to be brave sitting in a nice comfy airchair with the laptop on your knee!
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Old 12th May 2012, 17:31
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what is "Ahhh don't eject, Steve, don't eject" at 5:07.
Yep, I'll buy that.
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Old 23rd May 2012, 15:39
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Guess that goes to show that Steve DOESN'T have a premature ejection problem.
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Old 24th May 2012, 08:00
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Stupid input from you.

Force did a tremendous job of staying calm and handling the situation to the best of his limited experience at the time.

When you are in that situation, lets see how you go. Would have frightened the **** out of me.

Easy as hell to ne a Monday quarterback.
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Old 25th May 2012, 07:53
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Man that had me on the edge of my seat...... shame the picture isn't a bit clearer!!!

A few years after that incident I was lucky enough to go for a ride in the back seat of an A4 with Force up front, now that was a great ride
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