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Old 7th Aug 2007, 05:54
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WHOOPs

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bin meant 560 m
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Old 7th Aug 2007, 07:45
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meh its been a while since i was up in the strait, but i saw it at both mae and dni
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Old 7th Aug 2007, 19:22
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Shanty are you talking about a Navajo 310 or a Chieftan?

They may look the same but they are chalk and cheese performance wise.
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Old 7th Aug 2007, 23:42
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talking 310

flew PNL for some time on mail runs. It was a great shortfielder. 100 kg lighter than other company PA31`s. First of type in PNG, (PNP & PNL from memory) you may have flown it

The other bloke that honks around NQ and South Asia is what you would call an "expert user" Bin doin it since about 74.
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Old 8th Aug 2007, 00:55
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Didnt fly PNL or PNP but Sharpie wot comes on here Im sure did in the early 70s in PNG
A Navajo 310 I flew comes to mind is PVL.....

(Which I note must have died as it is now a PA-28 )
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Old 8th Aug 2007, 02:07
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1. Don't fly it from the right seat for "fun" unless you KNOW it has brakes on that side.

2. Only push non perishables / unfrozens up the front of the wing lockers, it gets quite warm up there, and always loop the ropes well when loading, it will save time at the other end!

3. If you hit the start button and only hear a winneing (spelling) noise with no prop turn, you have a starter problem. Get a heavy spanner etc.. and give the starter motor a good whack. Located through front air intakes. Maybe not accessable with cowls on, on one side with counter rotating props?

4. If gear is selected down and one main indicates not locked down "green". Do a fly by and confrim it looks down. Probably then just not quite snapped into place with mechanical lock. Option then is to just before touch down force gear handle fully down and hold in position until you are parked and secured. This will ensure hydraulics keep pumping which should overcome the force of the ground on touch down. Very reliable source that one, but not on board at time to test theory!

5. Always leave a "phantom" 20L in each aux. (yes I know I will get berated for that comment)
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Old 8th Aug 2007, 07:14
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Chieftain Tip # 8

Paste Smiley stickers over fuel gauges

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Old 9th Aug 2007, 02:48
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If you have an engine failure with the gear already up, still select it up. If the handle resets to the up-neutral position you have enough pressure to get the gear down when you need it. If not, you make have a crook hydraulic pump and will need to prepare for a manual extention. Not checking this resulted in a rather spectacular assymetric go-around at Mt. Isa several years back (rooster tail of dirt behind the a/c as it went around)
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"4. If gear is selected down and one main indicates not locked down "green". Do a fly by and confrim it looks down. Probably then just not quite snapped into place with mechanical lock. Option then is to just before touch down force gear handle fully down and hold in position until you are parked and secured. This will ensure hydraulics keep pumping which should overcome the force of the ground on touch down. Very reliable source that one, but not on board at time to test theory!"

Also...check if its a globe out. The light globes are interchangeable with those on a post light. Simply unscrew post light and gear light, swap globe and reinsert. Cheaper and quicker than holding while you get the emergency services out, and don't say it can't be done inflight because it is quicker and easier than it sounds!
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Old 9th Aug 2007, 03:22
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Hydraulic pumps

You should select gear down before starting the first engine. If the handle returns to centre after engine start then you know that pump is ok.When you shut the engines down, you check the other pump by keeping the engine running until you have selected gear down and seen the handle return to centre.
The bloke who flew the aeroplane before you should heve done that, but if you are unsure you can start an engine, check the pump and shut it down again while you check the other one. Some manuals require this.
How many times have you seen a Cheiftain taxi out with the flipper doors open? The flipper doors close when you check a pump.
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