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Old 17th Jul 2007, 23:48
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Question Advice on Turbine Theory

Lads, Tell me please about completing the Turbine theory Qual. What books / course recommended and costs etc. Thanks in advance.
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Old 18th Jul 2007, 04:38
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"Turbine theory Qual"
Is there any such thing now days? I thought they did away with the BGT exam just after I passed it (typical!) - with 98% I might add!
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Old 18th Jul 2007, 04:43
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It is now integrated in with the ATPL Aerodynamics and Aircraft Systems exam.

Recommendation- AFT book. Passed the thing this morning.
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Old 18th Jul 2007, 06:23
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No such thing to be able to fly a turbine as such. If you're endorsed on a turbine powered aircraft, then you can go fly turbines (provided you're endorsed as required on the a/c, ).

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No such thing to be able to fly a turbine as such. If you're endorsed on a turbine powered aircraft, then you can go fly turbines (provided you're endorsed as required on the a/c, ).
This was always my understanding - if it's a multi or over 5700kg then you require a type endorsement anyway. A friend of mine, however, told me that he had received a C208 endorsement on his license to fly the Caravan, which seemed a bit strange as I'm pretty sure it comes in under the 4T mark.

I've also seen ads for "turbine endorsement" training in the past. Am I right in saying this is not a CASA requirement, or something stated in the CAOs, but rather just somebody providing ad hoc turbine training along with flight training in a turbine a/c?
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Old 18th Jul 2007, 07:56
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Regardless of the MTOW a C-208 Caravan is a separate CLASS endorsement as per Appendix 1A Part 1 of CAO 40.1.0.

Probably because it has different systems to single piston types under 5700kgs.

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Old 18th Jul 2007, 08:09
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As far as I'm aware, a separate endorsement is required for:
  • Multi Engined Aircraft (Except for the Cri Cri!!!)
  • Aircraft with MTOW greater than 5700kgs
  • Piston Singles with more than a certain amount of horsepower (I think its around 700, I'm fairly certain one is needed to fly a Trojan)
  • And Turbine Powered aircraft
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Turbine theory

Suck, squeeze, bang, blow.

Though with today's new fangled turbines there's a couple of extra steps!

Speaking of BGT etc, heaven help us when these VLJ's for GA pilots are unleashed!
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Old 18th Jul 2007, 11:01
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I thought it was as simple as wht it says in the regs, you are endorsed to fly a SE aircraft under 5.7K unless type endorsement specified (there is alist in the cao's somewhere)

I think it is a good idea if someone is going to do an endorsement they may aswell o some thery cant hurt can it..
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Old 18th Jul 2007, 11:20
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A bit hard to tell, but I wonder if the person who posted the original query is in NZ? If so, there probably is still a BGT exam -or at least there was when I was last there 5 years or so ago! I certainly haven't heard of it's passing.

Is so, SimuFlight based out of NZAR offered those courses, as did several other training organisations around the country.

Hope that helps!
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Old 18th Jul 2007, 12:42
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A Cri Cri? Now I wonder if you can log twin time in one of them?

I think it would be a cool thing to play with.

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Old 18th Jul 2007, 13:25
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"Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow"

Na!

In a turbine its more like

Suuuuuuuuuuck, Squeeeeeeeeeeeze, Baaaaaaaaaang, Bloooooooooow

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Old 20th Jul 2007, 03:13
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For a bit of FACTUAL help here

YES, NZ still has a BGT exam requirement, as does PNG these days as their regs are based on the NZ ones...

Was someone seriously suggesting a special endorsement was not required for a C208?! I don't think so. Differences between single engine turbines and single pistons are rather extensive to say the least.

Best theory books to hit up for turbine theory would be:
- The Jet Engine (by Rolls Royce)
- Aircraft Gas Turbine Powerplants (by Jeppessen)

Very useful books and important to wrap one's head around the theory of jet engines - if you stuff up they are a heck of a lot more expensive to fix...

Look up the NZ CAA website and find the syllabus for the BGT exam and it will give you a good idea of what areas are good to study!
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Old 20th Jul 2007, 11:55
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Did BGT in NZ a couple of years ago. I had zip experience on turbines and found the exam quite straight forward.
The key to passing is like all other exams.... study.

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FoxTailed... Isn't that the new guys trying to get their foot in the door, not the engine ?
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Turbine Pilots Flight Manual pretty good text.
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