Aircraft of choice for outback tour
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Aircraft of choice for outback tour
I am interested to find out whether there is a common denominator for us GA types that want to go cruising around the countryside.
What would be an aircraft of choice, within relative reach of the hip pocket?
I know most people have their favourites, but I am interested in a little more concrete reasoning.
Ultralights also count...
What would be an aircraft of choice, within relative reach of the hip pocket?
I know most people have their favourites, but I am interested in a little more concrete reasoning.
Ultralights also count...
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How many people? A couple? Any kids? How many bags? Camping gear or staying in motels?
Without knowing more, how about one of these for a start?
Without knowing more, how about one of these for a start?
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2Pi$$ed, you will get the good Dr's stamp of approval there
A Bonza a day keeps the Dr away they say
Well assuming you are renting, probably the good old C172 thru to the A36 depending on what you have type experience.
If of course you are going to buy....Go the Jabiru, overall cost, speed and payload will outstrip any of the above for a touring a/c that is also slow enough for remote short strips and you can see the country side. Maybe not as tough as the old C172, but a better way to go in many respects.
What are your real criteria, and the budget, other wise its a C208
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A Bonza a day keeps the Dr away they say Well assuming you are renting, probably the good old C172 thru to the A36 depending on what you have type experience.
If of course you are going to buy....Go the Jabiru, overall cost, speed and payload will outstrip any of the above for a touring a/c that is also slow enough for remote short strips and you can see the country side. Maybe not as tough as the old C172, but a better way to go in many respects.
What are your real criteria, and the budget, other wise its a C208
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Well this is a subject of interest to me. I am currently limited to about one winter tour a year, because mt signifigant other is a school teacher (an extremely good one who is a marker, reference group member etc. and "of course" an art teacher).
Now Art teachers are rather special
They are not pilots. They have limited time and they are "arty"
Last years sojourne was Broken Hill ( to see the Pro Hart Gallery), Arkaroola ( to see where Fred Williams painted) and back. We took a C172 and had a ball.
This years trip will hopefully be Mildura ( for the restaurants), Arkaroola, Dig Tree (whitemans sacred site), Tibooburra, Broken Hill and home.
The easiest thing is to do a spreadsheet with distances and allowances for taxi, then apply cruising speeds and hourly rates. Limiting factors are lengths of available runways.
You can have hours of fun with a calculator and whiz wheel, current planning is an Arrow as the cheapest.
Now Art teachers are rather special
They are not pilots. They have limited time and they are "arty"Last years sojourne was Broken Hill ( to see the Pro Hart Gallery), Arkaroola ( to see where Fred Williams painted) and back. We took a C172 and had a ball.
This years trip will hopefully be Mildura ( for the restaurants), Arkaroola, Dig Tree (whitemans sacred site), Tibooburra, Broken Hill and home.
The easiest thing is to do a spreadsheet with distances and allowances for taxi, then apply cruising speeds and hourly rates. Limiting factors are lengths of available runways.
You can have hours of fun with a calculator and whiz wheel, current planning is an Arrow as the cheapest.
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By keeping the weight down to a minimum, yet keeping the aircraft structurally still very strong, (+6 -3), the Slepcev Storch is very original in both appearance and performance. The aircraft will fly at 22mph at full flap and 30% of power. Take off run into a 16mph wind is vertical with no forward roll.
thanks howie, that means landing run is the same?! vtol for the rest of us!
I was thinking two seat plus luggage space or 4 seat.
thanks howie, that means landing run is the same?! vtol for the rest of us!
I was thinking two seat plus luggage space or 4 seat.
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probably rent until I find the one i like... unfortunately it won't be a Jab, not until they fix the ergonomics... the throttle between my legs just doesnt work.. and i'm left handed...
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probably rent until I find the one i like... unfortunately it won't be a Jab, not until they fix the ergonomics... the throttle between my legs just doesnt work.. and i'm left handed...
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I wouldn't go by ultralight !.
Get a 30kt headwind and it'll be a very slow trip between the widely spaced refueling points in the GAFA.
Get something with the highest speed that you can handle (and are rated for).
A 182 ain't bad.., reasonable view, speed, payload and cabin space.
An Arrow is slower, but might be a bit cheaper.
Get a 30kt headwind and it'll be a very slow trip between the widely spaced refueling points in the GAFA.
Get something with the highest speed that you can handle (and are rated for).
A 182 ain't bad.., reasonable view, speed, payload and cabin space.
An Arrow is slower, but might be a bit cheaper.
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You need to spend more time flying one..........its really much better than the newer Jabs with the dash throttles.
As for left hand right hand, strated on left hand control stick, then right stick, then Yoke and RH throttle (C172) then a bit of each and now the RH stick again.
Its not that bad actually.
So rent a good speedy C172 ( ) or similar, YesTAM has the right idea.
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As for left hand right hand, strated on left hand control stick, then right stick, then Yoke and RH throttle (C172) then a bit of each and now the RH stick again.
Its not that bad actually.
So rent a good speedy C172 (
) or similar, YesTAM has the right idea.J
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thanks howie, that means landing run is the same?! vtol for the rest of us!
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I wouldn't go by ultralight !.
Get a 30kt headwind and it'll be a very slow trip between the widely spaced refueling points in the GAFA.
Get a 30kt headwind and it'll be a very slow trip between the widely spaced refueling points in the GAFA.
what about a Jabiru 230 series....
# Cruise Speed @ 2870 rpm 120 knots
# Range (nil reserve) - 800 nautical miles
Stall speed with flaps at Gross Weight 45 KIAS
Fuel Consumption at Cruise
20 lts/hr (6 USgal)
Take Off Distance at 600kg (Ground-roll)
150m (492 ft)
Landing Distance at 600kg (Ground-roll)
180m (656 ft)
apart from the obvious fuel savings, hire rates are much less than the fleet of medieval GA birds.
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Yep! An aircraft we can keep in our garage in 'the burbs'!
check this out http://www.cartercopters.com/
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