Tiger Moth World??????????
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Tiger Moth World??????????
I'm starting to get a little irritated by this outfit, does anyone else feel this way?
I've been spending Easter on my Yacht at beautiful Queenscliffe. Every day we get a visit from Tigermoth world, yesterday even towing a sign advertising their flights.
Trouble is that for the life of me I don't think they are maintaining 500 feet.
And to top it off, last night we had three young guys killed on the causeway to the island, woke for a pee at 3.00am and police lights everywhere.
So this morning, the first news helicopter showed at about 7.30 am. By 9.30 we had about four, as well as the police heli, presumably with the coroner on board.
So at about 10.30 what do we have? Thats right - TGW flying overhead the accident site, below news choppers and blowing smoke to drum up "trade". This is not only tasteless, its bloody unsafe, just like the powered paragliders from Barwon Heads.
I rate this outfit as just below jet skis in its nuisance value.
P.S. I get overflown by the Tigers from Point Cook most weekends and they seem a lot higher than these TGW guys.
I've been spending Easter on my Yacht at beautiful Queenscliffe. Every day we get a visit from Tigermoth world, yesterday even towing a sign advertising their flights.
Trouble is that for the life of me I don't think they are maintaining 500 feet.
And to top it off, last night we had three young guys killed on the causeway to the island, woke for a pee at 3.00am and police lights everywhere.
So this morning, the first news helicopter showed at about 7.30 am. By 9.30 we had about four, as well as the police heli, presumably with the coroner on board.
So at about 10.30 what do we have? Thats right - TGW flying overhead the accident site, below news choppers and blowing smoke to drum up "trade". This is not only tasteless, its bloody unsafe, just like the powered paragliders from Barwon Heads.
I rate this outfit as just below jet skis in its nuisance value.
P.S. I get overflown by the Tigers from Point Cook most weekends and they seem a lot higher than these TGW guys.
So yesTAM what is it that really bothers you?
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If you believe you have a valid complaint based on real concerns for aviation safety, you could always address these complaints to CASA.
if however it is just their presence that annoys you, why not up anchor and sail off elsewhere.
As for those annoying police lights. Funny but you get that when people are killed or another emergency situation occurs.
Trouble is that for the life of me I don't think they are maintaining 500 feet.
I rate this outfit as just below jet skis in its nuisance value.
if however it is just their presence that annoys you, why not up anchor and sail off elsewhere.
As for those annoying police lights. Funny but you get that when people are killed or another emergency situation occurs.
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YPJT, you just beat me to it! I'm also wondering what the point of the post is... I was at Torquay last weekend and whilst they did zoom up the beach practically on every flight they appeared to be operating 100% legally from where my trained eye was looking. I even spoke to the pilot at one stage on the ground and when I departed behind him he appeared to be at legal height etc.
I also feel sorry for you if you were offended by the operation of a helicopter or two in the morning.
I suspect it was probably a matter of poor timing by the pilot as he may not have known that somone lost their lives on the ground some 40+ kms away from his airfield only hours before.
Is there anything else that I can apologise for?
I also feel sorry for you if you were offended by the operation of a helicopter or two in the morning.
I suspect it was probably a matter of poor timing by the pilot as he may not have known that somone lost their lives on the ground some 40+ kms away from his airfield only hours before.
Is there anything else that I can apologise for?
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So at about 10.30 what do we have? Thats right - TGW flying overhead the accident site, below news choppers and blowing smoke to drum up "trade". This is not only tasteless, its bloody unsafe, just like the powered paragliders from Barwon Heads.
Perhaps a careful read of the post is in order?
William,
I think what is really getting up yesTAMs goat is:
Tiger Moths,
Jetskis
Police lights at 3:00am
Helicopters
and powered paragliders from Barwon Heads.
Thank god yesTAM didn't decide to anchor in Botany Bay for the weekend.
I think what is really getting up yesTAMs goat is:
Tiger Moths,
Jetskis
Police lights at 3:00am
Helicopters
and powered paragliders from Barwon Heads.
Thank god yesTAM didn't decide to anchor in Botany Bay for the weekend.
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If you don't like it.........Move to somewhere they aint. you sound like one of those winging old ladies that don't like anyone having fun. unless your in the aircraft, you have no idea what height they are at....... and guessing just doesn't count. do you know if they have any dispensations?..... didn't think so 
Mate, you need to eat a cement sandwich........ and harden up and get over it.
Mate, you need to eat a cement sandwich........ and harden up and get over it.
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as well as the police heli, presumably with the coroner on board
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One of the most frequent passengers is the VicPol photographer. They will sit there for quite a while depending on the situation taking snaps from all angles or as scrambler says, searching for clues / bodies etc. Would be surprised if the coroner was on board. They normally arrive in the unmarked wagon complete with aluminium suitcases and tinted windows.
I can't see that the news choppers have any more rights to be there than the TigerMoth and vice-versa. In all honesty and crudeness, what's happening on the ground is irrelevant.
Move on and get over it!
That being said, it's quite a tragedy and unfortunate that they didn't get out of the car as it appeared to be only in about 6ft of water.
I can't see that the news choppers have any more rights to be there than the TigerMoth and vice-versa. In all honesty and crudeness, what's happening on the ground is irrelevant.
Move on and get over it!
That being said, it's quite a tragedy and unfortunate that they didn't get out of the car as it appeared to be only in about 6ft of water.
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Thank you for your comments. Rest assured that if I see what I thought I saw again I WILL report to CASA, and No, I'm not moving, because Queenscliffe is the only safe harbour in this part of the Bay.
For the record, and based on various discussions on Pprune over the years, I've decided that the entire region between Torquay and Point Lonsdale is off limits when I'm flying because of what I will term "aerial pollution".
This consists of errant skydivers (apparently jumping through cloud) and various trikes which seem to operate without rhyme or reason. I skirt the CTAF on the occasional scenic. I'm simply asking if others believe that Tiger Moth World is part of this phenomenon. Do they have radios by the way?
P.S. Yes, it is a tragedy, and it was less than six feet of water. More I will not say.
For the record, and based on various discussions on Pprune over the years, I've decided that the entire region between Torquay and Point Lonsdale is off limits when I'm flying because of what I will term "aerial pollution".
This consists of errant skydivers (apparently jumping through cloud) and various trikes which seem to operate without rhyme or reason. I skirt the CTAF on the occasional scenic. I'm simply asking if others believe that Tiger Moth World is part of this phenomenon. Do they have radios by the way?
P.S. Yes, it is a tragedy, and it was less than six feet of water. More I will not say.
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I love curmudgeons like YesTAM! Nothing like pathos with my morning coffee to make me feel alive. I'd love to hear YesTAM's opinion on:-
obese children
labor vs. liberal
teenagers driving fast cars
Dick Smith
QF takeover
foreign people in call centres
skydivers (again!)
how it was "back in the day" when youngsters respected their elders
PS The Grumpy Old Women show is touring your way soon.
obese children
labor vs. liberal
teenagers driving fast cars
Dick Smith
QF takeover
foreign people in call centres
skydivers (again!)
how it was "back in the day" when youngsters respected their elders
PS The Grumpy Old Women show is touring your way soon.
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I love curmudgeons like YesTAM! Nothing like pathos with my morning coffee to make me feel alive. I'd love to hear YesTAM's opinion on:-\
Dick Smith
I'd go to beautifull Queenscliffe for a holiday but I hear that there's just too many damn boats out there spoiling the damn view.
There oughtta be some control over those boats, getting in the way of my view all the time.
There oughtta be some control over those boats, getting in the way of my view all the time.
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Dick was far away from TigerMoth world on the weekend! He chose to spend the weekend with his ultralight mates at Narromine flying in in his new Citation with 2 POB.
Admittedly I was jealous as it departed at a bizillion rate of knots with a climb rate that would put the Challenger rocket to shame...
Admittedly I was jealous as it departed at a bizillion rate of knots with a climb rate that would put the Challenger rocket to shame...
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YPJT, to put my question into language a Sandgroper can understand "Why the **** is this thing buzzing over the harbor each day at what appears to be well below 500 ft?".
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YesTam
Powered paragliders from Barwon Heads, you must have great eye sight at 66 as I have seen them too but must have missed the signs saying "I am from Barwon Heads" but hey what is the problem do they have to fly in a special space or what?
Just noticed below my response Tiger Flight 25 km from Melbourne is that just a coincidence?
Powered paragliders from Barwon Heads, you must have great eye sight at 66 as I have seen them too but must have missed the signs saying "I am from Barwon Heads" but hey what is the problem do they have to fly in a special space or what?
Just noticed below my response Tiger Flight 25 km from Melbourne is that just a coincidence?
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Fluffy, I have nothing against Tigers, or trikes, or joyflights. There are two trikes that appear to fly together sometimes and I'm fairly sure they are the two I've seen at Barwon Heads. I'm not sure if they are running a joy flight operation or not.
My initial comment is based on my observation that the Tigers seem to be flying a little lower compared to the Tigers I regularly see flying out of YPCK and around Williamstown.
On Sunday morning you could easily hear the flapping of the Tiger Moth World banner this guy was towing.
If you read other postings around Pprune, you will note that the activities of skydiving operators out of Barwon Heads and elsewhere in the vicinity of been the subject of much discussion
, hence my comment that I give the whole area a wide berth.
My initial comment is based on my observation that the Tigers seem to be flying a little lower compared to the Tigers I regularly see flying out of YPCK and around Williamstown.
On Sunday morning you could easily hear the flapping of the Tiger Moth World banner this guy was towing.
If you read other postings around Pprune, you will note that the activities of skydiving operators out of Barwon Heads and elsewhere in the vicinity of been the subject of much discussion
, hence my comment that I give the whole area a wide berth.
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YesTAM
Yes am aware that skydivers used to jump out of Barwon Heads Airport but that is a thing of the past I think, no jumpers for about 2 years down that way. Some may still do it at Torqair but am not sure (they never gave any problems or headaches to pilots in the area.)
The jumpers at RJL Aviation at Ceres way do a good job with no hassles that way either (looks as though Tigers of Torquay may be a bit of a problem.)
the last statement is based on your observation?
The powered hang gliders are around as you say but they seem to run a good operation have not heard a bad word about them. (except for your comment)
Yes am aware that skydivers used to jump out of Barwon Heads Airport but that is a thing of the past I think, no jumpers for about 2 years down that way. Some may still do it at Torqair but am not sure (they never gave any problems or headaches to pilots in the area.)
The jumpers at RJL Aviation at Ceres way do a good job with no hassles that way either (looks as though Tigers of Torquay may be a bit of a problem.)
the last statement is based on your observation?
The powered hang gliders are around as you say but they seem to run a good operation have not heard a bad word about them. (except for your comment)