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Old 3rd Mar 2007, 03:07
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Surveillance Australia observer Pay

Just wondering if anyone out there knows what the pay is for for an airborne observer at Surveillance. I have a friend that is going for a job there and one of the questions in the application is apparently "what do you expect to be paid."

Any info would be appreciated

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A good mate of mine is a pilot with them i'll try to track him down and get some details for you .

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thanks it would be greatly appreciated

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The base pay for an abinitio visual observer is about $38,500 and once CTL electronically is about $45,500.

Overnights are paid at the ATO stated amount of about $94 per night (tax free) but only after being CTL. There are other allowances that are paid as well depending upon whether the person becomes a trainer or C&T and are paid at various % rates up to 25% of the base wage. If an MC then there are additional bonuses paid on top of that as well in incremental stages over a few years. (These are aimed at retention.)

All training at abinitio stage is in CNS at accommodation paid for by the company, base pay + $50 per night allowance paid if not from CNS. That is paid until the course is finished and travel back to base is complete, then it is training wage only. Overnights are $50 until CTL. If not CTL after 12 weeks (at the moment due to massive training schedule) then base pay becomes the after CTL pay.

There is an 'overtime' flight pay of either $50/$75 depending upon your classification per hour for any hour or part thereof in excess of 70 hours when flown in a 28 day period. That can be a tidy sum just at the moment.

All pays paid bi-monthly EFT (approx 15th and last working day) allowances at the end of the month.

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Jeez - there have been some changes. Overtime flying pay?
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Old 3rd Mar 2007, 22:53
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crikey . i doubt i could get you info of that quality mate..
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ATO stated amount of about $94 per night
I have no reference BUT I believe that may be well out of date, should be more like $130 today!
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I have no reference BUT I believe that may be well out of date, should be more like $130 today!
No, it is about $94. It goes up with CPI each year.

The reasonable amounts for travel expenses with a salary below $84,250 from the ATO website are:

B'fast $19.60
Lunch $21.95
Dinner $37.80
Incidentals $14.95

If you get more than the reasonable amount then the entire amount must be shown on your group certificate and is potentially taxable.

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Old 4th Mar 2007, 10:33
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I would guess the observer would get paid alot more than the pilot seeing as the GA award is so pitifull....
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Old 4th Mar 2007, 11:05
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You'd guess wrong then.
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Which pilots are we talking about here? There be plently of windows lickers on more then the drivers
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The highest paid observers get more than the lowest paid pilots, but in general the pilots pay is higher. Vis pilot gets more than vis observer and more than a visual mission coordinator, Dash FO gets more than electronic observer but less than an electronic mission coordinator, Dash capt gets more than everyone.
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Thumbs down

Can the FO look out side and more than double her/his wage? What a crock of poo. This company is a peice of jack crap. spew
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Old 4th Mar 2007, 19:56
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Can the FO look out side and more than double her/his wage
I'm not too sure what you're on about?

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ha you bet ya
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An FO is welcome to apply for a job as an observer. If you think that they would then double their wage or that their job would become easier then you obviously have no idea about what you're talking about.

luckily for you (and them), no one is forcing you to fly for SAPL.
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How did you arrive at this comparison?
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uuuummm......

I think is was by watching observors lick windows... from memory..

"THe snozzberrys taste like snozzberrys"
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Super troopers

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I can kinda see where they are coming from; in my day most all of us were EMCs, where the Dash pilots only made up... what, half of the pilots?

I get the impression, though, that it would not be the case today.
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