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Ejector - as has already been stated, pilots are generally better paid than observers in the same aircraft. If you want to whinge about F/Os getting less than EMCs, take into account the fact that your average flappy lasts a damned sight less time before they bugger off to an airline, has been around the company and sometimes the industry for less time than many EMCs, knows less about the job than the average EMC has forgotten, and as a consequence, is not considered to be as great a value to the company.
"But I spent five years of my life and $40,000 on my licence!
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Boo hoo. Change careers or stick around long enough to be a captain.
Oh, and 'peice'? I before E except after C.
"But I spent five years of my life and $40,000 on my licence!
"Boo hoo. Change careers or stick around long enough to be a captain.
Oh, and 'peice'? I before E except after C.
Blurrg,
an observer is an unskilled job. You are brought into the company and trained up to the requirements for the sortie. They have been around in the industry for longer... for some yes and for some no. It is only because an observer can only get a job elsewhere with a failing company like AMSA.. other then that if they were to leave they could not simply walk into a P3 job could they. There is nothing else out there.
Most pilots have been in the industry alot longer. Suffered a damn sight more then observers and for the most part, oberservers dont have a prof check every 3 months unless they are stuffed. You would be surprised how much they actually do know about the job. To think optherwise is just plain ignorance. And with the lastest spait of failures of observers there you would be well to keep your opinions on the low low.
you know your job, they know theirs. Pull your head in.
an observer is an unskilled job. You are brought into the company and trained up to the requirements for the sortie. They have been around in the industry for longer... for some yes and for some no. It is only because an observer can only get a job elsewhere with a failing company like AMSA.. other then that if they were to leave they could not simply walk into a P3 job could they. There is nothing else out there.
Most pilots have been in the industry alot longer. Suffered a damn sight more then observers and for the most part, oberservers dont have a prof check every 3 months unless they are stuffed. You would be surprised how much they actually do know about the job. To think optherwise is just plain ignorance. And with the lastest spait of failures of observers there you would be well to keep your opinions on the low low.
you know your job, they know theirs. Pull your head in.
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Mr. Bula, you may suggest an observer is an unskilled job now and yes some people didn't have avaition experience before starting at SA but there have been many who did. Some had PPL's and 7000+ hrs doing other aviation jobs that required time in a range of types all over the world. Even Papua Mr. Bula.
No doubt pilots get shafted, they have been since I started in aviation 11 years ago. What you may forget when looking at observers wages is that finding SKILLED, EXPERIENCED observers is not an easy thing. While finding pilots doesn't seem that hard, same as finding disposable "window lickers". Finding SKILLED, EXPERIENCED pilots is, but sometimes it takes a while for the penny to drop. As to these jobs being the best and only thing observers can get, little narrow minded, disrespectful and may not be fully aware of the range of jobs available to people who like being aircrew but don't want to serve drinks.
No doubt pilots get shafted, they have been since I started in aviation 11 years ago. What you may forget when looking at observers wages is that finding SKILLED, EXPERIENCED observers is not an easy thing. While finding pilots doesn't seem that hard, same as finding disposable "window lickers". Finding SKILLED, EXPERIENCED pilots is, but sometimes it takes a while for the penny to drop. As to these jobs being the best and only thing observers can get, little narrow minded, disrespectful and may not be fully aware of the range of jobs available to people who like being aircrew but don't want to serve drinks.
Serve Drinks 
hahahah
can I have my lunch, can I have a bottle of H2O. hhahahaha
Narrow minded.. yeah you got me there. There are plenty of butchers, car sales reps, TACO's.. .but common.... you know FO's should be on a little bit more coin. The penny is going to drop and when it does someone elso will have the contract.
I hope I'm wrong but I dont think I am. Just out or curiosity, not trying to be a smart ass, what else is there..... really?
hahahahcan I have my lunch, can I have a bottle of H2O. hhahahaha
Narrow minded.. yeah you got me there. There are plenty of butchers, car sales reps, TACO's.. .but common.... you know FO's should be on a little bit more coin. The penny is going to drop and when it does someone elso will have the contract.
I hope I'm wrong but I dont think I am. Just out or curiosity, not trying to be a smart ass, what else is there..... really?
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Mr. Dog, white with one? People like you you always got favourable treatment because of your fine wit, impeccable manners and unique hairstyling.
Mr. Bula there are plenty of opportunities that pay a fair bit more than SA and you get to fly real low with rotary and fixed wing. Sometimes you even get to deploy things. You even get to travel to remote places all over the world. You need to be switched on with computers and electronics if you want to do more than push a switch though. You do have to get used to being away from home as well. That and a couple of other gigs that might or might not involve RPT and security. Or there is the old ex SA Obs stalwart of the ACS. Either way plenty of non drinks serving jobs for aircrew. We'll always get drinks for the polite, handsome ones though.
Mr. Bula there are plenty of opportunities that pay a fair bit more than SA and you get to fly real low with rotary and fixed wing. Sometimes you even get to deploy things. You even get to travel to remote places all over the world. You need to be switched on with computers and electronics if you want to do more than push a switch though. You do have to get used to being away from home as well. That and a couple of other gigs that might or might not involve RPT and security. Or there is the old ex SA Obs stalwart of the ACS. Either way plenty of non drinks serving jobs for aircrew. We'll always get drinks for the polite, handsome ones though.
