Ad-astral CIR
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I did my CIR there a few moons back and was perfectly happy with them. Ron has been doing it for a long time and knows how to put people through. I believe that they are one of the more expensive companies though. I figured that since you depart and arrive out of PH and not having to fly JKT - PH to fly your ILS's would save some MR hours/my $$ and it would all even out. I certainly didn't feel like I got bad value for my money.
I've recommended them to others who have asked my opinion.
Hope that helps.
I've recommended them to others who have asked my opinion.
Hope that helps.
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I did my initial with AA and a renewal at JAS...
AA are good, you get put under the pump a great deal (which works for some!) and being based at YPPH you get to do a landing off every approach (mostly ILS) great to brush up on your CTA proceedures and lots of gee wiz trucking around all the heavy metal! Their sim is great, based on a Navajo with actual a/c guages and the like, makes you work hard on assymetric IF.
Don't let RM's arm flapping and exasperations when you flub it put you off, you'll be better for it and the other instructors were all good (circa 2001).
I did find JAS more my style however, comprehensive and tailored training to your needs and capabilities (AA's course ran on rails and presumed you had recently done your CPL and were throughly familiar with all the texts re: proceedures, almost military in rote knowledge), if you didn't know something, or were a little rusty they filled in the gaps and made sure you read up on what was required. The do alot more ratings and it shows in their training and application of practical knowledge. The Baron is also a more suitable aircraft (it'll save you the cost of one additional rating) compared to the Duchess as it'll follow that it may well be one of your first types in the charter world.
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AA are good, you get put under the pump a great deal (which works for some!) and being based at YPPH you get to do a landing off every approach (mostly ILS) great to brush up on your CTA proceedures and lots of gee wiz trucking around all the heavy metal! Their sim is great, based on a Navajo with actual a/c guages and the like, makes you work hard on assymetric IF.
Don't let RM's arm flapping and exasperations when you flub it put you off, you'll be better for it and the other instructors were all good (circa 2001).
I did find JAS more my style however, comprehensive and tailored training to your needs and capabilities (AA's course ran on rails and presumed you had recently done your CPL and were throughly familiar with all the texts re: proceedures, almost military in rote knowledge), if you didn't know something, or were a little rusty they filled in the gaps and made sure you read up on what was required. The do alot more ratings and it shows in their training and application of practical knowledge. The Baron is also a more suitable aircraft (it'll save you the cost of one additional rating) compared to the Duchess as it'll follow that it may well be one of your first types in the charter world.
rN
Don't normally make a habit of posting on PPRUNE but for this one I had to. I can't talk for JA but Ad-Astral's IR is first class, did mine there only recently. Aircraft/airport/sim are all minor considerations to which instructor's are on the books and AA has some of the best and most experienced.
In my view it would be extremely hard to beat AA for value of money or quality of training.
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In my view it would be extremely hard to beat AA for value of money or quality of training.
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It'll be a sad day when Magilla stops flying. AA is a top training outfit.
No, TQ, it wasn't just you...
No, TQ, it wasn't just you...
hey i was looking a that johnson's place, did anyone notice that most of the pictures they show on the site are from microsoft flight sim?...
the baron in the multi TR for example... seems a little dodgy.
the baron in the multi TR for example... seems a little dodgy.
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sorry i was given the wrong site, some company in usa
www.johnsonaviation.com thats the one with the flight sim pics,
can you let me know what the "real site" is lol
www.johnsonaviation.com thats the one with the flight sim pics,
can you let me know what the "real site" is lol
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Hi Swanie,
suggest you be very careful putting in writing that any organisation "seems dodgy", this is a small industry, if you did a search with google or similar all would have been revealed.
i'm certain if not for your last post there would have been a spray of abuse from the very many loyal past students.
cheers
suggest you be very careful putting in writing that any organisation "seems dodgy", this is a small industry, if you did a search with google or similar all would have been revealed.
i'm certain if not for your last post there would have been a spray of abuse from the very many loyal past students.
cheers
Hey mate,
yeah here's the actual address http://www.johnstonaviation.com.au/.
I've heard both organisations are really good. Sure you'll be fine either way.
yeah here's the actual address http://www.johnstonaviation.com.au/.
I've heard both organisations are really good. Sure you'll be fine either way.
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point taken rock thrower
didn't mean to offend anyone, was only going on what I saw on the address I was given. and didn't know i was viewing another companies web site.
didn't mean to offend anyone, was only going on what I saw on the address I was given. and didn't know i was viewing another companies web site.