Wikiposts
Search
The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions The place for students, instructors and charter guys in Oz, NZ and the rest of Oceania.

Instrument Training

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 16th Feb 2007, 00:05
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Australia
Age: 40
Posts: 149
Received 20 Likes on 6 Posts
Instrument Training

G'day all,

I'm getting to the stage of looking at doing my instrument rating. Just wondering if anyone has had any good/bad experiences with their instument ratining training, and if anyone knows of operators who use/can use a baron or C310 for part of the training.


Cheers
Johnny_56 is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2007, 00:15
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,841
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yeah, try Air South in Adelaide and Johnsons aviation in Port Macquarie... both use Barons!

Aussie
Aussie is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2007, 01:45
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: BrisVegas
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Johnson Aviation are efficient, quick, cost effective and use Barons. Not many girls in Port Mac though.
JimmyReeves is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2007, 02:03
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Qld troppo
Posts: 3,498
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I have only had good experiences with Bob Harris in Innisfail. He uses a Duchess for training, but in my experience if you can fly the Duchess well, then the Baron/C310 is a non-event. The Duchess handles like a Baron that hasn't been to the gym for a while.

Bob is highly experienced and a great bloke to fly with.

FTDC
ForkTailedDrKiller is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2007, 02:03
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
Posts: 2,474
Received 319 Likes on 119 Posts
Not many girls in Port Mac though
Huh!!??

Was when I was living there.
morno is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2007, 02:54
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: 121.5
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Don't get sucked into using a substandard instructor/ school because they use a baron/ 310/ or anything else for that matter (I am not refering to any school listed in this thread). The aircraft that you did the CIR matters very little after 6 months but the quality (or lack thereof) of the training will stay with you for a long time.

This is particularly important these days as people seem to be getting airline interviews and sim checks with less and less experience and therefore less time to gain experience to make up for poor training. I have flown with many people in the simulator over the past few years who are about to have a sim check with airline x,y, or z and felt sorry for the poor bugger as it was clear they didn't have a chance due to poor scan TECHNIQUE and poor procedural knowledge or advice. You shudder at the amount of people that use old wives tales and gimmicks to fly approaches or holding patterns "because that's how my instructor told me" even though it's all written quite clearly in the AIP.

The problem is mostly due to instructors teaching CIR who only got their own ratings a year ago themselves and have not actually used the rating in a variety of different conditions.

For what it's worth, my advice is go to a school that can provide an instructor with significant IFR experience and well as a comprehensive sim syllabus. The synthetic trainer, if used properly will not only save you a fortune, but if it is a good one, teach you things you can't safely do in an aeroplane. Organisations like this are few and far between.

When you get a letter from QF/ VB/ JQ or anyone else telling you that you failed the sim ride you won't care about those 20 hrs in a B58 of C310 as opposed to a "girly" B76 or PA44! Good luck.
Yon Garde is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2007, 02:59
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: 121.5
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ps.... most people that publicly recommend a school on Prune work for or own the said organisation
Yon Garde is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2007, 04:46
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Qld troppo
Posts: 3,498
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I have no affiliation with the organisation I mentioned above. I have however done my last 5 or 6 IR renewals there and I am a satisfied customer.

FTDK
ForkTailedDrKiller is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2007, 04:54
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,841
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yeah likewise, have nothing to do with either of the mentioned schools.

Good luck!
Aussie is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2007, 14:19
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: australia
Posts: 587
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Agree with Yon G
If you get average training you will be average in IMC, Sims are a great way to work out the bugs, used prior and during actual flight training sorties will improve your skills.
maxgrad is offline  
Old 16th Feb 2007, 19:05
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 280
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Agree with Yon G
This subject keeps coming up.
Perth - Ad Astral
Mel - Bini's
scrambler is offline  
Old 17th Feb 2007, 15:08
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Here and there
Posts: 3,104
Received 14 Likes on 11 Posts
The girls are all either too young or too old. Not that that stopped one of my colleagues in training... .
AerocatS2A is online now  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.