Recognition of US flight time - no type rating
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Recognition of US flight time - no type rating
Hey all
Just wondering if anyone has a definite answer to this.
In the USA, a type rating is NOT required for any ME aircraft <5700kg (12,500lbs), yes including King Air 200s. All that is required is a blanket multi engine rating covering any multi engine aircraft <5700kg.
I need to know whether time flown (and legally logged) in the US on an FAA licence will be recognised by CASA upon return to Australia if my Australian licence never showed a type rating for the aircraft on which I logged FO/SIC time. Basically, can I legally log time in the US on a BE-200 and have the time recognised when I get home.
Obviously the company will conduct some training on the aircraft type - but seeing as the FAA doesn't require the type specific training, I will never have any sort of official qualification on the King Air appear on my FAA licence.
A big factor in decided whether or not to take the job. I called CASA (from the US) but didn't get the feeling they knew the answer 100% and I need to be sure.
Any information would be much appreciated.
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Just wondering if anyone has a definite answer to this.
In the USA, a type rating is NOT required for any ME aircraft <5700kg (12,500lbs), yes including King Air 200s. All that is required is a blanket multi engine rating covering any multi engine aircraft <5700kg.
I need to know whether time flown (and legally logged) in the US on an FAA licence will be recognised by CASA upon return to Australia if my Australian licence never showed a type rating for the aircraft on which I logged FO/SIC time. Basically, can I legally log time in the US on a BE-200 and have the time recognised when I get home.
Obviously the company will conduct some training on the aircraft type - but seeing as the FAA doesn't require the type specific training, I will never have any sort of official qualification on the King Air appear on my FAA licence.
A big factor in decided whether or not to take the job. I called CASA (from the US) but didn't get the feeling they knew the answer 100% and I need to be sure.
Any information would be much appreciated.
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My understanding is that it is a legal requirement to log all flight time.
I would expect that if your US Licence covers flight then log it. You would require the endorsement to fly the aircraft in Australia.
I would expect that if your US Licence covers flight then log it. You would require the endorsement to fly the aircraft in Australia.
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In the US it is not a requirement to log all flight time. Even at an airline you are not required to log all flight time. In fact you are not even required to present your log book for inspection by the FAA unless they get a court order to see it. Obviously you need to present it for a certificate or rating check ride. The ONLY flight time you must log is that wich you rely on for things like currency or to meet the aeronautical experience requirements for a certificate or rating etc.
CASA recognised all of the aircraft types below 12500lbs which I had flown in the States as PIC and gave me the endorsment on my Australian Lic. I can' t say what they would do with King Air copilot time. I do not know if there is a King Air copilot rating over here. Anyone?
You might want to check the facts of your situation there Ovum. If I read you post correctly, you are considering taking this King Air copilot job. If this is the case, then the only way you can legally log SIC time in a King Air is if the operation is conducted under part 135 (charter) or 121 (scheduled). In either case, the company is required to give you aircraft specific training and a check ride.
I would strongly suggest however that if you want a career flying planes, then stay in the US and dont even worry what CASA will do for you. PM me if you want, Ive spent considerable time flying in the US.
MJ
In the US it is not a requirement to log all flight time. Even at an airline you are not required to log all flight time. In fact you are not even required to present your log book for inspection by the FAA unless they get a court order to see it. Obviously you need to present it for a certificate or rating check ride. The ONLY flight time you must log is that wich you rely on for things like currency or to meet the aeronautical experience requirements for a certificate or rating etc.
CASA recognised all of the aircraft types below 12500lbs which I had flown in the States as PIC and gave me the endorsment on my Australian Lic. I can' t say what they would do with King Air copilot time. I do not know if there is a King Air copilot rating over here. Anyone?
You might want to check the facts of your situation there Ovum. If I read you post correctly, you are considering taking this King Air copilot job. If this is the case, then the only way you can legally log SIC time in a King Air is if the operation is conducted under part 135 (charter) or 121 (scheduled). In either case, the company is required to give you aircraft specific training and a check ride.
I would strongly suggest however that if you want a career flying planes, then stay in the US and dont even worry what CASA will do for you. PM me if you want, Ive spent considerable time flying in the US.
MJ
I'll be staying well outside of America until they start fixing some things...
FWIW, in Alaska I flew for 6 hours with an instructor in a ski equipped aircraft. In the rest of the world, there is no such thing as a special design feature endorsement for skis - jump in and go.
Upon my return to Oz, I forwarded the details of the flights and the instructor's details to CASA. I had logged the flights as ICUS as I was endorsed on the aircraft (SE<5700kg) and needed no design feature endorsement to fly it in the US.
After a short delay (2 months) during which time they contacted the FAA to check out the instructor's bona fides, I had a special design feature ski endorsement.
Upon my return to Oz, I forwarded the details of the flights and the instructor's details to CASA. I had logged the flights as ICUS as I was endorsed on the aircraft (SE<5700kg) and needed no design feature endorsement to fly it in the US.
After a short delay (2 months) during which time they contacted the FAA to check out the instructor's bona fides, I had a special design feature ski endorsement.
