CDMA Phones being replaced by Next G
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Yep, NextG working superbly wherever I fly. As good or better coverage than CDMA, and with a generally clearer conversation.
Strangely enough, I sometimes get a better signal in a remote area than in an urban one. Apparently something to do with fewer users = better signal strength. Could be wrong, but that's my 2c worth.
Strangely enough, I sometimes get a better signal in a remote area than in an urban one. Apparently something to do with fewer users = better signal strength. Could be wrong, but that's my 2c worth.
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Question for Mainframe,
The Next G phone are sim equipped and i noticed mention of tri and quad band.
If i get a quad band with world roam, it should infact work world wide right ?.
The Next G phone are sim equipped and i noticed mention of tri and quad band.
If i get a quad band with world roam, it should infact work world wide right ?.
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Why this fascination for Nokia?
I have recently bought a Motorola RAZR V3i after being an exclusive Nokia user since god knows when. It's the best mobile phone I have ever had by a LONG way....especially, but not exclusively, because it is so easy to carry around without pouches etc.
I have recently bought a Motorola RAZR V3i after being an exclusive Nokia user since god knows when. It's the best mobile phone I have ever had by a LONG way....especially, but not exclusively, because it is so easy to carry around without pouches etc.
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Experiences with CDMA & NextG
I haven't used NextG in the bush yet but it is flawless for checking TAFs & Metars along the NSW coast.
As far as CDMA goes, I have used my laptop to check weather at 10,000 ft over the Simpson Desert. It's not so good at lower altitudes in remote areas.
It'll be interesting to if NextG can match CDMA out there...I don't see why not. Next flight to YAYE, I'll do a comparison.
As far as CDMA goes, I have used my laptop to check weather at 10,000 ft over the Simpson Desert. It's not so good at lower altitudes in remote areas.
It'll be interesting to if NextG can match CDMA out there...I don't see why not. Next flight to YAYE, I'll do a comparison.
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Hi Rock thrower,
Don't mean to cut mainframe's grass.
Quad banded phones will work on the following frequencies, WCDMA 850/ UMTS 2100, GSM 900/1800/1900. tri banded phones generally work on GSM 900/ 1800/ 1900. The 3G network is the UMTS 2100 and nextG is WCDMA 850. As far as world roaming is concerned you need to check that the handset you have or intend to get will operate in the country you intend on using it in. some Asian countries in particular do not use a frequency that we have here in Oz. I would suggest looking at your carriers website or the maker of the hanset's for further info.
Cheers.
Don't mean to cut mainframe's grass.
Quad banded phones will work on the following frequencies, WCDMA 850/ UMTS 2100, GSM 900/1800/1900. tri banded phones generally work on GSM 900/ 1800/ 1900. The 3G network is the UMTS 2100 and nextG is WCDMA 850. As far as world roaming is concerned you need to check that the handset you have or intend to get will operate in the country you intend on using it in. some Asian countries in particular do not use a frequency that we have here in Oz. I would suggest looking at your carriers website or the maker of the hanset's for further info.
Cheers.
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Nokia Release
Hi,
I noticed that Nokia has finally released a NextG capable phone. I think it is the 6120. Has anyone had any experience with with this phone in regards to use, reception, durability, functionality, MET, email, web, etc? Has anyone taken them into the boonies and how did they compare with CDMA?
Thanks,
W&F
I noticed that Nokia has finally released a NextG capable phone. I think it is the 6120. Has anyone had any experience with with this phone in regards to use, reception, durability, functionality, MET, email, web, etc? Has anyone taken them into the boonies and how did they compare with CDMA?
Thanks,
W&F
W & F
I have been holding out for a NExt G Nokia and was about to buy this new one. Our phone consultant warned me against it. Story goes it has failed Telstra's tests a couple of times becasue its does not work well in the boonies, but they decided to release it anyway. Not in the same league as CDMA.
I was advised NOT to buy one.
I see the date for shutdown of CDMA has been put back.
Dr
I have been holding out for a NExt G Nokia and was about to buy this new one. Our phone consultant warned me against it. Story goes it has failed Telstra's tests a couple of times becasue its does not work well in the boonies, but they decided to release it anyway. Not in the same league as CDMA.
I was advised NOT to buy one.
I see the date for shutdown of CDMA has been put back.
Dr
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FTDK, W & F, etc
sorry for the absence from the forums, been busy with some ethnic cleansing of you know what.
Next G.
The Nokia 6120 Classic Next G phone works well.
I have retired my Nokia 6255 Cdma phone, a brilliant piece of technology,
and am now using my new Nokia 6120 Classic.
It works everywhere that the 6255 did, and in some cases, better.
Note that myself and other users have experienced increasingly degraded CDMA performance in the last year, as Telstra phase in Next G.
Some of this is due to sharing hardware, some is possibly intentional degradation to encourage CDMA users to move on,
and to satisfy the Communications Minister (Helen Coonan?) that Next G is yielding equivalent or better coverage.
My only problem at present is adapting my mobile phone intefaces to work with the 2.5mm 4 pole Nokia audio connector.
I am working with David Clark to get my phone interface operating on my DC X11's.
I also have a Safety Cell phone adaptor and when I resolve the audio connections for the DC X11's,
I should then be able to fabricate an adaptor for both.
My main inflight phone useage is:
1. AWIS terminal Wx (see the BOM site for all the phone numbers, you'd be amazed by the number of Airports)
Most pilots, given the number of inflight requests for metars, dont seem to know they can simply phone an AWIS site for the particular port.
2. Wet season real time animated radar of destinations and alternates to help me build a picture of problem areas.
3. Contacting flightwatch during difficult HF reception times, to report taxying, or to cancel SAR.
4. Emergency comms in case of radio failure, a lot of charts now have phone numbers listed in case of comms failure.
As for the Nokia not suitable for rural areas rumour,
try to remember that Bright Star, Telstra's handset middlemen,
have a vested interest in peddling such master pieces as ZTE etc.
Telstra didn't really want to deal with Nokia, but their customer base, particularly CDMA, have voted.
By sheer co incidence, Sol has friends in Bright Star.
In summary, yes, the 6120 Classic works, I waited and now use one.
MF p.s. FTDK, check your PMs
sorry for the absence from the forums, been busy with some ethnic cleansing of you know what.
Next G.
The Nokia 6120 Classic Next G phone works well.
I have retired my Nokia 6255 Cdma phone, a brilliant piece of technology,
and am now using my new Nokia 6120 Classic.
It works everywhere that the 6255 did, and in some cases, better.
Note that myself and other users have experienced increasingly degraded CDMA performance in the last year, as Telstra phase in Next G.
Some of this is due to sharing hardware, some is possibly intentional degradation to encourage CDMA users to move on,
and to satisfy the Communications Minister (Helen Coonan?) that Next G is yielding equivalent or better coverage.
My only problem at present is adapting my mobile phone intefaces to work with the 2.5mm 4 pole Nokia audio connector.
I am working with David Clark to get my phone interface operating on my DC X11's.
I also have a Safety Cell phone adaptor and when I resolve the audio connections for the DC X11's,
I should then be able to fabricate an adaptor for both.
My main inflight phone useage is:
1. AWIS terminal Wx (see the BOM site for all the phone numbers, you'd be amazed by the number of Airports)
Most pilots, given the number of inflight requests for metars, dont seem to know they can simply phone an AWIS site for the particular port.
2. Wet season real time animated radar of destinations and alternates to help me build a picture of problem areas.
3. Contacting flightwatch during difficult HF reception times, to report taxying, or to cancel SAR.
4. Emergency comms in case of radio failure, a lot of charts now have phone numbers listed in case of comms failure.
As for the Nokia not suitable for rural areas rumour,
try to remember that Bright Star, Telstra's handset middlemen,
have a vested interest in peddling such master pieces as ZTE etc.
Telstra didn't really want to deal with Nokia, but their customer base, particularly CDMA, have voted.
By sheer co incidence, Sol has friends in Bright Star.
In summary, yes, the 6120 Classic works, I waited and now use one.
MF p.s. FTDK, check your PMs
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Mainframe. For adaptors for Nokia try this site
http://www.cellink.com.au/products/i...649da2418ba210
You will be looking for AHF 2.5 mm socket adaptor.
I am not sure how it will go with your phone, I got one for my Nokia CDMA no poblems, works well with the DC X11
http://www.cellink.com.au/products/i...649da2418ba210
You will be looking for AHF 2.5 mm socket adaptor.
I am not sure how it will go with your phone, I got one for my Nokia CDMA no poblems, works well with the DC X11
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Nokia Next G
Scrambler,
thanks, had no problems using the 2.5mm audio socket on the Nokia 6255,
and the "Pop Port" (Tm) connector also works fine.
What the issue is, the latest Nokia phones, N series, Symbian 60 smart phones etc, now use a 4 contact 2.5 mm plug to allow for Stereo, and a microphone.
The Nokia 6255 and earlier phones were Mono, and able to use 3 contact 2.5mm plugs.
Some Nokia handsfree headsets started`to use a 4 contact 2.5mm plug, giving audio, mic and push to answer etc.
Right now I'm adapting a 4 pin plug off an old handsfree earpiece to inteface with a 3 contact 2.5mm socket, when thats working, problem solved, and a quick wiring instruction will be posted.
For Motorola and Samsung Next G users, there is already a mini USB to 3.5mm adaptor available off the shelf, see the DC X11 website for supplier links.
thanks, had no problems using the 2.5mm audio socket on the Nokia 6255,
and the "Pop Port" (Tm) connector also works fine.
What the issue is, the latest Nokia phones, N series, Symbian 60 smart phones etc, now use a 4 contact 2.5 mm plug to allow for Stereo, and a microphone.
The Nokia 6255 and earlier phones were Mono, and able to use 3 contact 2.5mm plugs.
Some Nokia handsfree headsets started`to use a 4 contact 2.5mm plug, giving audio, mic and push to answer etc.
Right now I'm adapting a 4 pin plug off an old handsfree earpiece to inteface with a 3 contact 2.5mm socket, when thats working, problem solved, and a quick wiring instruction will be posted.
For Motorola and Samsung Next G users, there is already a mini USB to 3.5mm adaptor available off the shelf, see the DC X11 website for supplier links.
