Request for info on ferrying acft from US
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I believe the "if engine or propeller" refers to the situation where you are importing an engine or prop as a replacement item, not the situation where they are already fitted to the airframe in question. Must be some local rule that I have not come across, 'cos it is common enough for 2nd hand engines to come in to Oz and get bolted on to airframes. Provided the records are kosher, of course. Don't know nuthin about props, but, as it has been a few years since I had to deal with them.
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ConwayB,
PM me if you need any other help, lots of advise above, some good, some bad (in my humble opinion). David Friend, Steve Death or Gary Mitchell are the men to contact for flying help and I can give you the numbers. Me if you need some advice and equipment and want to do it yourself. I think Jim H is having some time out at the moment but Gary and possibly David or Steve would be available. I've done about 40 crossings so can add a bit to what you have been told if you still need and or want it.
Cheers,
jib
PM me if you need any other help, lots of advise above, some good, some bad (in my humble opinion). David Friend, Steve Death or Gary Mitchell are the men to contact for flying help and I can give you the numbers. Me if you need some advice and equipment and want to do it yourself. I think Jim H is having some time out at the moment but Gary and possibly David or Steve would be available. I've done about 40 crossings so can add a bit to what you have been told if you still need and or want it.
Cheers,
jib
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Conway B
You have been getting some good info , But in regards to GPS going out ,well that may happen when one of your legs may go for 14 hours just hold your heading . the longest trip I have done in an Aerostar is Cocos island to Marisius with a couple of GPS no signals , and get use to flying overweight ! The going rate for a ferry from the Us to Oz is around 20K AUD
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Good Luck..have a look at this website http://www.earthrounders.com/index.html
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There are ferrys from USA to OZ fairly regularly,and if you ask nicely you might be able to fly the aircraft yourself in company with one of their ferries. That way you'll log the hours and have a great adventure, and your insurer will view it more kindly.
I would start with Australian Air Ferry AKA Hazeltons. They can suggest who in the USA could fit out the aircraft with ferry tanks and hire/purchase survival equipment etc. They are nice folks to do business with if you decided to use theur services.
I would definitely avoid those people at Bankstown who have a reputation for water landings, and have litigation pending.
I would start with Australian Air Ferry AKA Hazeltons. They can suggest who in the USA could fit out the aircraft with ferry tanks and hire/purchase survival equipment etc. They are nice folks to do business with if you decided to use theur services.
I would definitely avoid those people at Bankstown who have a reputation for water landings, and have litigation pending.
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Don't recall if its been mentioned (and not re-reading all this again 
) but another issue to look at is ferry insurance.
A lot of insurers demand a high level of practical ferry experience from pilots and their demands could also include oil systems, know ferry tanking contractors and the like. If their criteria isn't met, then no insurance offered or extremely high rates.
No expert here at all but just thought I'd pop that in. Could look into it further if you'd like but I'll give Jim H a plug too. Great guy.
) but another issue to look at is ferry insurance. A lot of insurers demand a high level of practical ferry experience from pilots and their demands could also include oil systems, know ferry tanking contractors and the like. If their criteria isn't met, then no insurance offered or extremely high rates.
No expert here at all but just thought I'd pop that in. Could look into it further if you'd like but I'll give Jim H a plug too. Great guy.
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Hazeltons
Jim Hazelton was ferrying aircraft between Australia and USA before most of us started flying. Jim was using electronic navigation before any one had heard of it. He had a unit specially built in the US for his ferry flights. It used to give him a fix every 45 minutes or so, and was about the size of a beer carton..
The Hazelton organisation also had good engineering and design capabilities. He took my brother's Piper Pawnee, and made it into a "fat" pawnee, with side by side seating and dual controls.
There was also an occasion when one of their Cessna 310's had a problem getting the nosewheel down, so they got two vehicles, tied a rope between them and put one of them on each side of the runway. The 310 made a very low run along the runway and the two vehicles used the rope to pull the nosewheel into place. Sucessfully. True story. This was caught on film, and shown on TV.
The film is probably in the archives somewhere.
The Hazeltons are some of Australia's aviation greats.
The Hazelton organisation also had good engineering and design capabilities. He took my brother's Piper Pawnee, and made it into a "fat" pawnee, with side by side seating and dual controls.
There was also an occasion when one of their Cessna 310's had a problem getting the nosewheel down, so they got two vehicles, tied a rope between them and put one of them on each side of the runway. The 310 made a very low run along the runway and the two vehicles used the rope to pull the nosewheel into place. Sucessfully. True story. This was caught on film, and shown on TV.
The film is probably in the archives somewhere.
The Hazeltons are some of Australia's aviation greats.
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Once again, thanks
Hello one and all,
I would like to thank you all for your continued advice and suggestions.
I may not get a chance to PM/respond to everyone's input in the very near future, but rest assured I will be recording all the info that is offered.
Bushy, I remember watching that nosewheel incident on TV on the evening news. I think it was about 1980 or so. I was still at school... but being an aviation tragic, anything about flying caught my attention.
Amazing stuff!
Safe flying
Conway
I would like to thank you all for your continued advice and suggestions.
I may not get a chance to PM/respond to everyone's input in the very near future, but rest assured I will be recording all the info that is offered.
Bushy, I remember watching that nosewheel incident on TV on the evening news. I think it was about 1980 or so. I was still at school... but being an aviation tragic, anything about flying caught my attention.
Amazing stuff!
Safe flying
Conway
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Hazelton Rope Trick
Just to add some background to the above event....it was actually the second of such incidents ..the first occured on the 17th July 1973 and it was in VH-RIX at Cudal...in this incident the attempt to "Lassoo" the nosewheel was unsuccefull because the runway wasnt long enough at Cudal...the technique was however developed during this event and eventually used with great success during the second attempt which was at the much longer Orange Airfield....
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Exporting process for New aircraft
Do you know what the required steps are for exporting Newly manufactured aircraft (straight off the production line)? What steps are different than those you described in your post?
Thank you,
JNK
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Thank you,
JNK
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