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Old 3rd Jan 2007, 00:49
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PA31 Melbourne.

I have just obtained my PA31 endorsement and was wondering where I could get some experience on type to consolidate the endorsement. I am based in Melbourne and would prefer some night freight runs if possible.

I have a current MECIR with 50 hours on twins. If anybody has any suggestions could you please PM me.

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"... I have just obtained my PA31 endorsement and was wondering where I could get some experience on type to consolidate the endorsement ..."

In a PA31 might be a good start!

R

(ducks for cover!)
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Good Luck to you, I think you might be dreaming.....and may I ask why you got your Chieftain endo if you didnt have something lined up to use it??
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only place i know that does night freight in the melbourne area using Chiefs is Tasfast at Moorabbin. Don't know their minimums however.

king island airlines run chieftains, but not sure whether its pax+freight or if they run some freight only flights; or whether its at night or day.....
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PA31/ Aercommander.

Perhaps if you also obtained an Aerocommander endorsement your chances would improve. Try GAM.
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More Multi

I would not bother with GAM with only 50 hrs multi, minimum would be more like 150 but even more likely over 200 hrs
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Try Sharp Airlines for an ICUS block rate. Its not cheap but you will learn to fly the machine properly. visit www.sharpairlines.com.au. It should put you in good stead later on down the track when that twin job somes up...........................eventually.
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Old 6th Jan 2007, 03:08
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50 hours twin.

Seeing I can’t get any flying out of Melbourne I am quite willing to move else where to get the 50 hours. Need to have it by March. If somebody could assist could you please PM me.
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Old 6th Jan 2007, 18:58
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PA 31 time

Maybe give Glen or James at Altitude Aviation in Newcastle a call
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As much as i hate to say it and hate pilots and operators that destroy the industry for others, try paul lions out of jandakot, WA. He'll treat you like sh*t and pay you next to nothing but you'll get some good experience. GAM's won't give you a job with 50hrs or anyone else in vic. If you can get another 50hrs and 1000hrs total you might have a shot at fugro airborne surveys. Wouldn't bother doing an AC50 endo, like you'd be able to get one to do an ensdorsement anyway in vic. Jandakot flight center might give you a look in if you have an instructor rating answell. Or you could jsut go north, whats your total time like? Like someone said before, why did you do the endorsement?
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just my 2c - Why not?

If 2 young pilots walk through the door, one with and one without, and they were the same otherwise I know who I'd hire. Shows initiative I think, good luck!
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Old 10th Jan 2007, 08:38
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Originally Posted by Titanium_Sandwich
just my 2c - Why not?

If 2 young pilots walk through the door, one with and one without, and they were the same otherwise I know who I'd hire. Shows initiative I think, good luck!
Yeah well wait until you are next in line for an upgrade to something like a Conquest and you find some part time prick walks through the door and says Hi I'd like to buy an endorsement please and then starts doing flying which is rightfully yours as a full time employee of the company. It seems from this thread there's way too many pricks out there screwing people over.
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I agree with tlf, where do you draw the line???
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then starts doing flying which is rightfully yours as a full time employee of the company
always love hearing about employees RIGHTS to tell their employers what to do.......

Back on track, Australasian Jet at EN does a night freight every night of the week out of EN to Tassie and back, in a PA31. Go see Rob Parker, the CP.
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 15:05
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Originally Posted by tlf
Yeah well wait until you are next in line for an upgrade to something like a Conquest and you find some part time prick walks through the door and says Hi I'd like to buy an endorsement please and then starts doing flying which is rightfully yours as a full time employee of the company. It seems from this thread there's way too many pricks out there screwing people over.

Yeah, kind of like going to an airline and paying for a type rating..

Sorry
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 21:09
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In Sydney, give Tim a call at Australia by Air/Skymaster, they have a freight run or two with some ICUS spots every now and then.

http://www.skymaster.com.au

cheers
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Originally Posted by Jamair
always love hearing about employees RIGHTS to tell their employers what to do.......
So you feel that it's ok for a career pilot to lose opportunites to advance within a company every time some hobby pilot walks through the door with a bundle of cash to spend.
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It is the right of the employer to manage his assets - including personnel - as he sees fit. It is the right of the employee to take himself (as an asset) somewhere else if he doesn't like the employers manner of doing business.

That said, if that event actually occurred - ie that an employer accepted a payment from a new hire to undertake a rating or endorsement and in doing so current employees were disadvantaged, then there are at least three messages:

1. The boss is using you; leave.
2. The boss thinks you are not competent for that job; get your ****e together
3. The new employee demonstrated greater merit than you for the position; get over it.

Maybe you should initiate a conversation with him and determine which of these is the case and how to address them?
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Paid icus??

There appear to be a number of charter companies that depend on new "employees" paying for icus during charter flights in order to do cheap charter. The employees are generally on contract, and paid by the flying hour after they have finishrd paying for their icus.
The better operators look after their employees, and look to the long term. The good employees do too.
I'm not sure of the legality of doing bicus during charetr flights.
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Hey Brown Eyes

Maybe getting a job at a company with singles, then BE58/310, then PA31/ bigger may be they way to go?

Get a 3 yr plan, and stick to it. Find a few companies who can offer what you need and approach them, but in turn be prepared to give them what they require over that period. Work hard, etc etc....

There are not to many short cuts , sorry mate.....
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