VOLKSWAGEN TOUAREG vs N9747P
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VOLKSWAGEN TOUAREG vs N9747P
In Dec 01 Cars Guide supp there was a photo of a V10 Touareg pulling a 747-200. Nothing too exciting about that, my old HiLux could do that.
My question though is it seems that the US reg 747 has been re-engined.
Where engine No 1 should be there seems to be a ext range fuel pod (the photo is side on) with what appears to be No 1 and 2 engines hanging off the no 2 pylon.
The same goes for 3 and 4, both hanging off no 3 pylon.
Can anyone shed any light on this and if the pod is for fuel would that not upset some trim when being draining into the main tanks, as well as why would the 747 be re-engined like this?
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My question though is it seems that the US reg 747 has been re-engined.
Where engine No 1 should be there seems to be a ext range fuel pod (the photo is side on) with what appears to be No 1 and 2 engines hanging off the no 2 pylon.
The same goes for 3 and 4, both hanging off no 3 pylon.
Can anyone shed any light on this and if the pod is for fuel would that not upset some trim when being draining into the main tanks, as well as why would the 747 be re-engined like this?
Rock on!
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Sounds like a photo I saw of a 747 that had been modified to look like that for a movie.
There are no real 747's like that flying.
And on another forum I worked out that the car towing the 747 would need to make about 285 ft-lbs of torque, not sure if you Hilux could manage that.
There are no real 747's like that flying.
And on another forum I worked out that the car towing the 747 would need to make about 285 ft-lbs of torque, not sure if you Hilux could manage that.
Is this the photo you are referring to:
The FAA says it is one of the reserved fictitious tail nos. are: N88892, N9748C, N9747P;
However, it appears N9747P is also the prototype Lockheed JetStar?.
Here's another referance:
Further photo and explanation.
The FAA says it is one of the reserved fictitious tail nos. are: N88892, N9748C, N9747P;
However, it appears N9747P is also the prototype Lockheed JetStar?.
Here's another referance:
One of the best James Bond movies in a long time is Casino Royale. It features a modified ex-Boeing 747-200 of British airways (G-BDXJ) that is being introduced as a new aircraft during the movie. Very exciting scene when it is being rolled out of the hangar.
Further photo and explanation.
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From the Top Gear Website
November 24, 2006
Touareg pulls a big bird
Frankly, the only time you'll catch us pulling a big bird is in the wee small hours in a seedy nightclub, but Volkswagen has been making more of a song and dance of the pulling power of its Touareg.
In a flagrant but impressive publicity stunt, a Touareg V10 TDi dragged a 155-tonne Boeing 747-200 jumbo jet along the same runway that the Stig normally uses to demonstrate his unearthly skills.
It's a neat trick and one we're kicking ourselves for not thinking of first, but VW did cheat just a smidgen by adding 4.3 tonnes of metal weights to the car to give it a bit more traction.
The firm changed the axle ratio to give the turbodiesel V10-engined SUV more of a chance to overcome the static friction caused by the plane's tyres compressing under its enormous weight.
VW also swapped some body panels on the Touareg to dress it up like the 2007 facelfifted model, but the engine, gearbox and tyres were all standard.
As for the aircraft, 20 tonnes of fuel were replaced with water, and the four jet engines were replaced with dummies for safety.
Driver Uwe Krieghoff reported that the car had no trouble hauling the jet and said: "I was a bit disappointed we couldn't find something heavier to tow as it was too easy. If anyone could lend us a heavier aircraft then please let us know."
So if the cargo plane in your garage is just gathering dust, you know who to call.
Touareg pulls a big bird
Frankly, the only time you'll catch us pulling a big bird is in the wee small hours in a seedy nightclub, but Volkswagen has been making more of a song and dance of the pulling power of its Touareg.
In a flagrant but impressive publicity stunt, a Touareg V10 TDi dragged a 155-tonne Boeing 747-200 jumbo jet along the same runway that the Stig normally uses to demonstrate his unearthly skills.
It's a neat trick and one we're kicking ourselves for not thinking of first, but VW did cheat just a smidgen by adding 4.3 tonnes of metal weights to the car to give it a bit more traction.
The firm changed the axle ratio to give the turbodiesel V10-engined SUV more of a chance to overcome the static friction caused by the plane's tyres compressing under its enormous weight.
VW also swapped some body panels on the Touareg to dress it up like the 2007 facelfifted model, but the engine, gearbox and tyres were all standard.
As for the aircraft, 20 tonnes of fuel were replaced with water, and the four jet engines were replaced with dummies for safety.
Driver Uwe Krieghoff reported that the car had no trouble hauling the jet and said: "I was a bit disappointed we couldn't find something heavier to tow as it was too easy. If anyone could lend us a heavier aircraft then please let us know."
So if the cargo plane in your garage is just gathering dust, you know who to call.
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From 1996...
SYDNEY, Australia (Reuter) -- Australian strongman David [pull] Huxley
landed himself in the Guinness Book of Records on Tuesday by pulling a
jumbo jet more than 165 feet (50 meters).
The 38-year-old native of the state of Tasmania performed the feat
before a cheering crowd on the tarmac at Sydney's Mascot Airport.
Huxley once dragged a Boeing 767 more than 150 feet (46 meters) and
pulled a Concorde the length of a football field and huge mining
trucks even further than that.
Despite three world records to his name and his impressive strength,
Huxley is a softy at heart. Proceeds from his record will be used to
let children with cancer do some traveling.
[jet and man] "The aim is to raise $70,000 (Australian; $50,000
U.S.). That's what it's going to take to send five kids out there, to
send them around the world and put them on the Concorde and fly them
across the Atlantic on it," Huxley said before he made pulled the
plane.
With a cheering squad in place, Huxley strapped his 130-kilogram
(286-pound) body into his harness. He huffed and he puffed, he went
red in the face, his veins bulged -- and he gave it all he had.
And after a few minutes, the 187-ton Boeing 747 was mobile and Huxley
was on his way into the record books again.
He was able to drag the plane 179 feet (55 meters) to the delight of
his fans, who included his mother. Ruth Huxley said she was proud of
her son, but would like to see him take up a less strenuous hobby.
Copyright 1996 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved.
SYDNEY, Australia (Reuter) -- Australian strongman David [pull] Huxley
landed himself in the Guinness Book of Records on Tuesday by pulling a
jumbo jet more than 165 feet (50 meters).
The 38-year-old native of the state of Tasmania performed the feat
before a cheering crowd on the tarmac at Sydney's Mascot Airport.
Huxley once dragged a Boeing 767 more than 150 feet (46 meters) and
pulled a Concorde the length of a football field and huge mining
trucks even further than that.
Despite three world records to his name and his impressive strength,
Huxley is a softy at heart. Proceeds from his record will be used to
let children with cancer do some traveling.
[jet and man] "The aim is to raise $70,000 (Australian; $50,000
U.S.). That's what it's going to take to send five kids out there, to
send them around the world and put them on the Concorde and fly them
across the Atlantic on it," Huxley said before he made pulled the
plane.
With a cheering squad in place, Huxley strapped his 130-kilogram
(286-pound) body into his harness. He huffed and he puffed, he went
red in the face, his veins bulged -- and he gave it all he had.
And after a few minutes, the 187-ton Boeing 747 was mobile and Huxley
was on his way into the record books again.
He was able to drag the plane 179 feet (55 meters) to the delight of
his fans, who included his mother. Ruth Huxley said she was proud of
her son, but would like to see him take up a less strenuous hobby.
Copyright 1996 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved.
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As for the aircraft, 20 tonnes of fuel were replaced with water,
Isn't 20,000l of water 20,000 kg, whereas 20,000l of fuel is a nominal 15800kg?
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Yes Clarie - a strange claim!
Why would what is effectively only a film prop have any fuel on board? And why would "...the four jet engines (be) replaced with dummies for safety"?
Why would what is effectively only a film prop have any fuel on board? And why would "...the four jet engines (be) replaced with dummies for safety"?
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Touareg pulls a big birdIn a flagrant but impressive publicity stunt, a Touareg V10 TDi dragged a 155-tonne Boeing 747-200 jumbo jet
(snip)
As for the aircraft, 20 tonnes of fuel were replaced with water, and the four jet engines were replaced with dummies for safety.
Touareg pulls a big birdIn a flagrant but impressive publicity stunt, a Touareg V10 TDi dragged a 155-tonne Boeing 747-200 jumbo jet
(snip)
As for the aircraft, 20 tonnes of fuel were replaced with water, and the four jet engines were replaced with dummies for safety.
The 747 mentioned above is a movie prop (no pun intended) with no engines, so you can take off another 5-6 tonnes per engine, for a total of about 150 tonnes or so. So close to that 155 tonnes they reckon.
But yeah the fuel & water thing is a bit of a mystery .... maybe they still had some fuel in the #2 tank for the APU?
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I think the fuel exchange is a red herring as Top Gear are merely quoting what the film company have done to the plane and has no direct connection with the VW stunt.
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Ahh PPRuNers never let me down.
The whole exercise was really academic then if the plane aint really real.
I think my trusty HiLux with 4300 kgs of ballast would pull it. If a strongman, and I do remember David Huxley on TV or someone anyway pulling that plane, the the good old Tojo could.
The photos are indeed excellent, and what with CGI in the movies nowadays could very easily make N9747P fly if required.
Agree re water for fuel. Whats the point. Would need to have minimal fluids anywhere unless the tanks contain some sort of anti corrosion gear.
What was the history of N9747P? Who flew it? Did it run out of hours? etc
Seems to me that unless it had a HUGE HARD landing somewhere it should still be in the air somewhere. Like Africa.
And finally I gather its land based in England, given the Top Gear comments.
And finally finally are the other ficticous tail numbers in the US?
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The whole exercise was really academic then if the plane aint really real.
I think my trusty HiLux with 4300 kgs of ballast would pull it. If a strongman, and I do remember David Huxley on TV or someone anyway pulling that plane, the the good old Tojo could.
The photos are indeed excellent, and what with CGI in the movies nowadays could very easily make N9747P fly if required.
Agree re water for fuel. Whats the point. Would need to have minimal fluids anywhere unless the tanks contain some sort of anti corrosion gear.
What was the history of N9747P? Who flew it? Did it run out of hours? etc
Seems to me that unless it had a HUGE HARD landing somewhere it should still be in the air somewhere. Like Africa.
And finally I gather its land based in England, given the Top Gear comments.
And finally finally are the other ficticous tail numbers in the US?
Rock on!
