light Plane Down ARCHERFIELD
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light Plane Down ARCHERFIELD
Light plane crashes at Archerfield+
A light plane has crashed at Archerfield in Brisbane.
The Queensland Ambulance Service says two people were on board.
Emergency crews are on the way to the scene.
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- Thats all from the ABC site at this time, one hopes some details to emerge shortly...............
A light plane has crashed at Archerfield in Brisbane.
The Queensland Ambulance Service says two people were on board.
Emergency crews are on the way to the scene.
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- Thats all from the ABC site at this time, one hopes some details to emerge shortly...............
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Brisbane Courier Mail
A FLYING instructor and his student have walked away after the light plane they were in crashed into a tree near Archerfield Airport in Brisbane's south-west.
One of the pair was treated by paramedics at the scene for minor injuries and the other was unhurt, a Queensland Ambulance Service spokeswoman said.
Queensland Fire and Rescue Service (QFRS) incident controller Rob O'Connor said the two-seater single-engined Yak 52 hit a tree at the end of the runway.
"It's basically overshot the runway and went head-on into a gum tree about 100 metres past it," Mr O'Connor said.
"The plane received damage to its front prop, undercarriage and wing."
The QFRS set up a 20 metre cordon around the plane as they wait for air crash investigators to arrive.
Police said the plane had been coming in to land without its landing gear extended when the propeller hit the tarmac.
"The instructor pulled the plane up and sought a landing site at short notice,'' a police spokeswoman said.
Police have praised the efforts of the instructor for averting a tragedy.
One of the pair was treated by paramedics at the scene for minor injuries and the other was unhurt, a Queensland Ambulance Service spokeswoman said.
Queensland Fire and Rescue Service (QFRS) incident controller Rob O'Connor said the two-seater single-engined Yak 52 hit a tree at the end of the runway.
"It's basically overshot the runway and went head-on into a gum tree about 100 metres past it," Mr O'Connor said.
"The plane received damage to its front prop, undercarriage and wing."
The QFRS set up a 20 metre cordon around the plane as they wait for air crash investigators to arrive.
Police said the plane had been coming in to land without its landing gear extended when the propeller hit the tarmac.
"The instructor pulled the plane up and sought a landing site at short notice,'' a police spokeswoman said.
Police have praised the efforts of the instructor for averting a tragedy.
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That's the second Yak to crash this week!
This one's a Yak-52 - VH-WYO. Looks like wheels-up during landing attempt - prop hit runway - tried to pull it back into the air - but no way.
Di
This one's a Yak-52 - VH-WYO. Looks like wheels-up during landing attempt - prop hit runway - tried to pull it back into the air - but no way.
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Expert piece of flying?
Described on the tele as an "expert piece of flying"!
Yeah, right!
1) Almost lands with wheels retracted
2) Reduces the prop diameter by >50% on the runway
3) Tries to take off again
4) Crashes into a tree
Expert piece of flying!!!!!
Given that the gear does not retract fully in the Yak 52, I suspect substantially less damage would have been done by leaving the throttle closed following the prop strike!
R
Yeah, right!
1) Almost lands with wheels retracted
2) Reduces the prop diameter by >50% on the runway
3) Tries to take off again
4) Crashes into a tree
Expert piece of flying!!!!!
Given that the gear does not retract fully in the Yak 52, I suspect substantially less damage would have been done by leaving the throttle closed following the prop strike!
R
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Described on the tele as an "expert piece of flying"!
Yeah, right!
1) Almost lands with wheels retracted
2) Reduces the prop diameter by >50% on the runway
3) Tries to take off again
4) Crashes into a tree
Expert piece of flying!!!!!
Given that the gear does not retract fully in the Yak 52, I suspect substantially less damage would have been done by leaving the throttle closed following the prop strike!
R
Yeah, right!
1) Almost lands with wheels retracted
2) Reduces the prop diameter by >50% on the runway
3) Tries to take off again
4) Crashes into a tree
Expert piece of flying!!!!!
Given that the gear does not retract fully in the Yak 52, I suspect substantially less damage would have been done by leaving the throttle closed following the prop strike!
R
Bet the insurers won't be happy!
But to be fair - it's easy to say from the comfort of a desk. He would have got a bit of a fright I would have thought.
May have made a wrong decision to try to keep going - but we are all human.At least there were no injuries/deaths - things could have been much worse!
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Trees?
The trees that the Yak went into are on the 10 end of the paved runways 10/28. it made it into the air with its 50% prop and must have come down in the forest area after the end of runway 28. No offence to the instructor and pilot but how do you forget to put the gear down! theres a thing called pre-landing checks. But were all human and could have forgotten.
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The calibre of pilots these days....
Years ago the old saying was oft repeated when an incident like this happened.. a shake of the head and a quiet mutter..
"Two types of pilots, those that have and those that will" would be said with a smile, inwardly knowing it could happen to the most experienced pilot, and a genuine pity for the poor unfortunate who just plain forgot...
These days... more a fingerpoint and a look what he did, I am better for not having done it!
Poor bugguh...
Dog..
Years ago the old saying was oft repeated when an incident like this happened.. a shake of the head and a quiet mutter..
"Two types of pilots, those that have and those that will" would be said with a smile, inwardly knowing it could happen to the most experienced pilot, and a genuine pity for the poor unfortunate who just plain forgot...
These days... more a fingerpoint and a look what he did, I am better for not having done it!
Poor bugguh...
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This is a bit too easy a throw-away line.
This was a 2 pilots crew - student and instructor.
There is NO EXCUSE!
The reality is that those who f*ck up this basic bit of airmanship continue to push up the insurance rates for all - and it particularly irks those of us who haven't (yet), and probably never will.
I had less than 100 hrs when I did my first retractable endorsement (Mooney Super 21 - with the big lever to get the gear up) some 31 years ago.
Now, as I understand it, insurance rates go out through the roof unless you have 500 hrs on "complex" aircraft. I am not sure how those starting out on their aviation careers are supposed to get that time without paying crazy hire rates.
No matter how you look at it, accidently landing an aircraft with the gear retracted is a major f*ck up, and we need to be asking WHY it continues to happen.
My 2 cents worth is: Throw the written checklists to the sh*t house and rote learn standard downwind and final appr checks until they are burned into your brain.
Mine are:
Undercart-Brakes-Mixture-Pitch-Fuel/Fuel pumps-Harnesses-Lookout
and
Rich, Fine and Green - Cowl flaps
If I am flying a fixed gear then I always substitute "welded" for "green"
R
and having f*cked up and run your prop down the runway - I think trying to climb out is really, really DUMB!
This is a bit too easy a throw-away line.
This was a 2 pilots crew - student and instructor.
There is NO EXCUSE!
The reality is that those who f*ck up this basic bit of airmanship continue to push up the insurance rates for all - and it particularly irks those of us who haven't (yet), and probably never will.
I had less than 100 hrs when I did my first retractable endorsement (Mooney Super 21 - with the big lever to get the gear up) some 31 years ago.
Now, as I understand it, insurance rates go out through the roof unless you have 500 hrs on "complex" aircraft. I am not sure how those starting out on their aviation careers are supposed to get that time without paying crazy hire rates.
No matter how you look at it, accidently landing an aircraft with the gear retracted is a major f*ck up, and we need to be asking WHY it continues to happen.
My 2 cents worth is: Throw the written checklists to the sh*t house and rote learn standard downwind and final appr checks until they are burned into your brain.
Mine are:
Undercart-Brakes-Mixture-Pitch-Fuel/Fuel pumps-Harnesses-Lookout
and
Rich, Fine and Green - Cowl flaps
If I am flying a fixed gear then I always substitute "welded" for "green"
R
and having f*cked up and run your prop down the runway - I think trying to climb out is really, really DUMB!
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This means there is an excuse.
Hope you are right. But you are probably always right. 
Yes well....with 20/20 hindsight I'm sure he would have done things differently.
I hope the boots never on the other foot mate.
Di
Yes well....with 20/20 hindsight I'm sure he would have done things differently.
I hope the boots never on the other foot mate.
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The world is full of rat****s, I am so bloody good it will not happen to me!!
A normal person always reads,understands and then tries real hard to always be on the ball.
Humans do and will mess up, I suppose you do not have insurance rat as you will never need it hey.
A normal person always reads,understands and then tries real hard to always be on the ball.
Humans do and will mess up, I suppose you do not have insurance rat as you will never need it hey.
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Gentlemen!! We really should all be thankful that the unfortunate Pilots managed to walk away from the accident. We should also, all of us, say quietly to ourselves,
'There but for the grace of God go I.'
Nuff said.
'There but for the grace of God go I.'
Nuff said.
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I think its more of a minor mistake with major consequences! Just a little bit harder to hide than forgetting the cowl flaps!
Go easy on Rat**** guys.
He might need some help one day when things dont quite end up perfect.
He has obviously mastered those complex aircraft with cowl flaps / retractable undercarriage.
Keep winding Rat.
He might need some help one day when things dont quite end up perfect.
He has obviously mastered those complex aircraft with cowl flaps / retractable undercarriage.
Keep winding Rat.
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