Grumman Tiger?
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Had a Travelair for a couple of years, the Tiger's little brother with the 0-320.
But also flew the Tiger, used both for mustering, the Tiger when the Travelair was in for 100 hourly's. Can't speak highly enough of them, although I remember the sports car like seats in the Tiger were great to look at but crap to sit in.
Not sure how the Tiger stacks up against a Piper or Cessna 180hp equivelant, suffice to say it would beat it in every aspect, but by how much I don't know.
Same goes for the Travelair's 150/160hp equivelant, I would imagine most Grumman owners get a touch of the giggles looking at the Piper/Cessna equivelant.
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M
But also flew the Tiger, used both for mustering, the Tiger when the Travelair was in for 100 hourly's. Can't speak highly enough of them, although I remember the sports car like seats in the Tiger were great to look at but crap to sit in.
Not sure how the Tiger stacks up against a Piper or Cessna 180hp equivelant, suffice to say it would beat it in every aspect, but by how much I don't know.
Same goes for the Travelair's 150/160hp equivelant, I would imagine most Grumman owners get a touch of the giggles looking at the Piper/Cessna equivelant.
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M
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The Tiger is an honest enough little aeroplane but you get nothin for nothin in this world. The price of a few extra knots is a small cabin, brick like performance with the power off, and limited range.
One of those quirky aeroplanes that people either love or hate.
I would walk past the Tiger to get in a good old C172 or PA28 anyday.
Oh yeah, and I have a few hours in them all.
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Burdekin Aeroclub at Ayr (Qld) operate one. Could give you the collective view of their members.
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P.O Box 127, Ayr Qld 4807
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Guess it's subjective preference,
Never flown a brick so can't comment, flown a shed though and many gliders, if I want to fly power off I'll choose a glider every time, the Tigers best used with the power on.
Always felt the little Grummans were quite roomy.
I understand your preference for 28's and 172's some like bigger women to that's ok.
Your right on range though.
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M
Guess it's subjective preference,
Never flown a brick so can't comment, flown a shed though and many gliders, if I want to fly power off I'll choose a glider every time, the Tigers best used with the power on.
Always felt the little Grummans were quite roomy.
I understand your preference for 28's and 172's some like bigger women to that's ok.
Your right on range though.
Regards
M
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You gotta stop smokin that weed man!
The Tiger is an honest enough little aeroplane but you get nothin for nothin in this world. The price of a few extra knots is a small cabin, brick like performance with the power off, and limited range.
One of those quirky aeroplanes that people either love or hate.
I would walk past the Tiger to get in a good old C172 or PA28 anyday.
Oh yeah, and I have a few hours in them all.
R
The Tiger is an honest enough little aeroplane but you get nothin for nothin in this world. The price of a few extra knots is a small cabin, brick like performance with the power off, and limited range.
One of those quirky aeroplanes that people either love or hate.
I would walk past the Tiger to get in a good old C172 or PA28 anyday.
Oh yeah, and I have a few hours in them all.
R
Loved by those who have mastered the quirks, hated by those that couldn't.
There is no such thing as a good 172
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Hey Whizwheel
Personally i like the Tiger, they're a slippery little aircraft and id rather fly one of them over a 172 any day of the week.
Few years back i took a 182 to birdsville in the company of a Tiger and a Cutlass (replace the c with a G)
and the Tiger was consistently 5-10kts faster GS, but i had to carry all of their baggage of course...
So if you dont care about carrying baggage and just want a little plane to whip around the skies for fun, then the tigers your plane...
Personally i like the Tiger, they're a slippery little aircraft and id rather fly one of them over a 172 any day of the week.
Few years back i took a 182 to birdsville in the company of a Tiger and a Cutlass (replace the c with a G)
and the Tiger was consistently 5-10kts faster GS, but i had to carry all of their baggage of course... So if you dont care about carrying baggage and just want a little plane to whip around the skies for fun, then the tigers your plane...
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Rat****
Guess it's subjective preference,
Never flown a brick so can't comment, flown a shed though and many gliders, if I want to fly power off I'll choose a glider every time, the Tigers best used with the power on.
I understand your preference for 28's and 172's some like bigger women to that's ok.
M
Guess it's subjective preference,
Never flown a brick so can't comment, flown a shed though and many gliders, if I want to fly power off I'll choose a glider every time, the Tigers best used with the power on.
I understand your preference for 28's and 172's some like bigger women to that's ok.
M
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Yep! I like "Suck-Blow" Cessnas and MU2's, and hate Tiger Moths as well!
And I may be the only pilot who NEVER, EVER reads Lane Wallace's column in Flying magazine. Oh yeah, she flys a Grumman Cheetah - maybe that's it.
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And I may be the only pilot who NEVER, EVER reads Lane Wallace's column in Flying magazine. Oh yeah, she flys a Grumman Cheetah - maybe that's it.
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Little skinny wing - goes fast/doesn't carry much/likes more runway
Big fat wing - goes a bit slower/carries more/needs less runway
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Gotta agree with Ratsh!t re "Blow Suck" Cessna & MU2 - I recon they're pretty cool! Great to see the Mitsi operating out of HN nowdays...just a bit of a sequencing 'mare when they hit the circuit VFR at 250kts!
However...all of the above aircraft have their third wheel in the wrong place for a REAL aeroplane!!
However...all of the above aircraft have their third wheel in the wrong place for a REAL aeroplane!!
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OK Ratsbutt, up till now I been prepared to let you go, but you stepped over the line mate when you launched a scud missile against lovely Lane, I've had a fantasy about me & her and her little Grumman for some time now so back off dude.
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Back to the thread -
Grumman Tiger - good little plane. Spent a bit of time in 'em.
Advantages -
1. great forward viz for VFR sightseeing (vs the high dashes/noses of most of the others)- horizon about 1/2 way up the windshield in cruise.
2. nice handling - although not aerobatic, nippy yet balanced in roll. Nicer for manoevring than say a 172 or Warrior. Slips nicely.
3. simple systems for pilot to manage, and very few ad's left on them now - so maintenance cheap
4. back seat folds down to give large cargo area - with the front seats forward, big enough for medium sized folks to sleep in (on the ground), even.
5. fastish for the HP - 135 KT on an O-360, but not a Mooney
6. Sliding canopy can be cracked open for great ventilation on ground or in flight
Disadvantages:
1. sliding canopy not the best for getting in and out of aircraft when raining!
2. more nippy handling makes for a little more concentration in IMC
3. can't stand under the wing
4. Need to baby the nosewheel a little on landing - hold it up as long as possible
Neither advantage or disadvantage:
1. floats if you don't nail the airspeed on final - but so do a lot of other low wngs
2. most parts available as PMA
3. cabin space about same as others
There's a pretty good owners/pilots group call the AYA if you want to Google for more info.
Grumman Tiger - good little plane. Spent a bit of time in 'em.
Advantages -
1. great forward viz for VFR sightseeing (vs the high dashes/noses of most of the others)- horizon about 1/2 way up the windshield in cruise.
2. nice handling - although not aerobatic, nippy yet balanced in roll. Nicer for manoevring than say a 172 or Warrior. Slips nicely.
3. simple systems for pilot to manage, and very few ad's left on them now - so maintenance cheap
4. back seat folds down to give large cargo area - with the front seats forward, big enough for medium sized folks to sleep in (on the ground), even.
5. fastish for the HP - 135 KT on an O-360, but not a Mooney
6. Sliding canopy can be cracked open for great ventilation on ground or in flight
Disadvantages:
1. sliding canopy not the best for getting in and out of aircraft when raining!
2. more nippy handling makes for a little more concentration in IMC
3. can't stand under the wing
4. Need to baby the nosewheel a little on landing - hold it up as long as possible
Neither advantage or disadvantage:
1. floats if you don't nail the airspeed on final - but so do a lot of other low wngs
2. most parts available as PMA
3. cabin space about same as others
There's a pretty good owners/pilots group call the AYA if you want to Google for more info.
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(keeping the post on thread!)
Avgas: I apologise for upsetting your fantasy! We all need our dreams in this hard and lonely world.
However, I only said that I don't read Lane's column - I didn't say she is not a bit of a fox!
I understand the way to Lane's heart is with your arse end on the ground!
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Agree with Notimtams on his pros & cons, just want to add one more con, bloody crappy for new restricted licence pilots trying to taxi down local dirt strip after sheep have just been rounded up and getting nose wheel caught in sheep tarcks and ended up where they went and not where I wanted to go. Very funny for CFI walking down strip laughing to come and help. Apart from that spent most of my restricted licence in a AA-5A and loved it.
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