Blimp faces Gabba ban
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Blimp faces Gabba ban
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...5-3102,00.html
Premier Beatty is shooting from the hip again;
I can't imagine how a state govt. can legally ban an aviation activity.
Can anyone with more legal nouse than me (it won't take much!) comment?.
Premier Beatty is shooting from the hip again;
I can't imagine how a state govt. can legally ban an aviation activity.
Can anyone with more legal nouse than me (it won't take much!) comment?.
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I gather that much.......
My question was how can a State ban an Aviation Activity not 'event'.
Beatty's trying to protect the sponsors' dollar at sponsored events, not ruin an aviation event.
My question was how can a State ban an Aviation Activity not 'event'.
It's not just the Holden blimp that will be affected: banner towing, skywriting, etc will all lose their ability to earn an income
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where do you draw the line on "advertising"?
a recognisable company/brand by way of titles, or by symbols, or even by the physical thing (eg Piper, Cessna, Boeing)...?
so what if you turn the screen off the blimp and fly it "privately"... it still has HOLDEN painted on it, but if thats considered advertising, then are the above mentioned buffoons wanting to ban it going to throw a hissy when John Citizen flies a Cessna privately over the ground? Cant read it from the ground, but some people can tell what it is, so that might be considered advertising?
political corectness has gone mad..... now this ???
Holden have got themselves onto a great thing, all this extra media coverage at no cost
a recognisable company/brand by way of titles, or by symbols, or even by the physical thing (eg Piper, Cessna, Boeing)...?
so what if you turn the screen off the blimp and fly it "privately"... it still has HOLDEN painted on it, but if thats considered advertising, then are the above mentioned buffoons wanting to ban it going to throw a hissy when John Citizen flies a Cessna privately over the ground? Cant read it from the ground, but some people can tell what it is, so that might be considered advertising?
political corectness has gone mad..... now this ???
Holden have got themselves onto a great thing, all this extra media coverage at no cost
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Interesting Question.
Sounds like a field day for the Blue Haired ones.
AFAIK nothing seen telling ATC the Blimp can't fly over the Gabba - it would have to be a non-aviation ban - i.e. a commercially based legal order. It would not be for the ANSP to enforce, nor for CASA I would imagine.
Nor even for the PIC in his primary role as PIC.
Sounds like a field day for the Blue Haired ones.
AFAIK nothing seen telling ATC the Blimp can't fly over the Gabba - it would have to be a non-aviation ban - i.e. a commercially based legal order. It would not be for the ANSP to enforce, nor for CASA I would imagine.
Nor even for the PIC in his primary role as PIC.
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....pollies:-(
..............is this what the general public think?............Mr "bloggs" is sitting there at the cricket or whatever sporting event, the blimp flies over with it's bright holden advertising gimick & instantly Mr "bloggs" thinks. .....yes that advert alone will make me buy a "bombadore" !............I don't think so !!!.............politicians....................now if they could think like that the next silly thing they will want to try is tie themselves to the side of the blimp to help get voted in ?????............I don't think so !"
Capt Wally :-)
p.s....................the blimp flew directly over my property to the nth of Melb enroute to the Bathurst races recently ever so slowly, I believe it travels at around 50 k's an hr...............with the size of OZ I reckon we could see it "steal" the limelight about 3 times a year.....winds being favourable that is!:-)
Capt Wally :-)
p.s....................the blimp flew directly over my property to the nth of Melb enroute to the Bathurst races recently ever so slowly, I believe it travels at around 50 k's an hr...............with the size of OZ I reckon we could see it "steal" the limelight about 3 times a year.....winds being favourable that is!:-)
AFL GF was a joke how the blimp was passing its shadow over the field during play to attract attention to itself. Now if teflon passed a law stating that the blimp was not allowed to pass a shadow over anywhere inside the stadium he would have something to work with.
The technique was deliberate in its intent. Personally, I have nothing against ambush advertising. I Do have issues with a shadow being cast across a field of play.
The technique was deliberate in its intent. Personally, I have nothing against ambush advertising. I Do have issues with a shadow being cast across a field of play.
More questions than answers ...
How far away from the Gabba must the airship fly? Not within sight(whatever that is)? Must it be outside 1 mile? 5 miles? 50 miles?
Could Ford complain that the Airship is airborne in Sydney while their sponsored event is on at the Gabba? ... stupid exageration I know, but where is the line drawn?
How far away from the Gabba must the airship fly? Not within sight(whatever that is)? Must it be outside 1 mile? 5 miles? 50 miles?
Could Ford complain that the Airship is airborne in Sydney while their sponsored event is on at the Gabba? ... stupid exageration I know, but where is the line drawn?
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what about clouds and other aircraft, even the light towers and stadium structure itself?
or is it just man-made shadows over such a size moving at such a speed? now thats just getting into the ridiculous.
i just dont see a way of restricting aircraft in operations like advertising logically...
or is it just man-made shadows over such a size moving at such a speed? now thats just getting into the ridiculous.
i just dont see a way of restricting aircraft in operations like advertising logically...
witwiw, you had to watch the GF to understand what I am talking about.Shadows cast by clouds and the light towers even the shadows cast by the stadium itself are relatively very fixed in position. The airship was deliberately placing itself upsun from the target to put its shadow directly across the field. The ploy was to attract attention to itself. A passing aircraft at even 60kts would cast a shadow across the field in less than 2 seconds. The airship was positioning at less than 10kts hence the longer duration and deliberate nature of the operation.
Next year there is a different network supplying the telecast. The same network is a sponsor of said airship. It will be very interesting if there is a repeat of tracking the airship shadow across the field during the sponsors telecast.
Next year there is a different network supplying the telecast. The same network is a sponsor of said airship. It will be very interesting if there is a repeat of tracking the airship shadow across the field during the sponsors telecast.
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Yeah, we are all living on another planet here in QLD.
When we get all sophisiticated like those fine folks in Sydney and Melbourne (epi centres of the world) we might even get TV - whatever that is.
If we are really lucky we might get Morris Iemma and his bankrupt government.
He would of course be just another of the 1000 refugees that escape civilisation for QLD every week.
Lets start looking a little bit further outward at what a backwater our new found (last 10 years - hint, hint) Australian attitudes are making us to the rest of the world, rather that picking on us poor dumb Queenslanders.
(PS - you are right - it's really bad here - best y'all stay put in Tinsel Town and the Bleak City until it's safe. I'll let you know when. )
When we get all sophisiticated like those fine folks in Sydney and Melbourne (epi centres of the world) we might even get TV - whatever that is.
If we are really lucky we might get Morris Iemma and his bankrupt government.
He would of course be just another of the 1000 refugees that escape civilisation for QLD every week.
Lets start looking a little bit further outward at what a backwater our new found (last 10 years - hint, hint) Australian attitudes are making us to the rest of the world, rather that picking on us poor dumb Queenslanders.
(PS - you are right - it's really bad here - best y'all stay put in Tinsel Town and the Bleak City until it's safe. I'll let you know when. )
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OZBUS, noted...
what im trying to get at is if they are to ban the ship from flying over such events, how do they do it? banning it due to shadowing seems ridiculous as there is no real way to outline the restrictions. (im just trying to think of the absurb cases to point out that trying to implement such bans is a complete crock)
it wouldnt surprise me however that it will be out less and less in the near future; its done about as much as it can do for the time being!
what im trying to get at is if they are to ban the ship from flying over such events, how do they do it? banning it due to shadowing seems ridiculous as there is no real way to outline the restrictions. (im just trying to think of the absurb cases to point out that trying to implement such bans is a complete crock)
it wouldnt surprise me however that it will be out less and less in the near future; its done about as much as it can do for the time being!
