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Old 14th Aug 2006, 10:37
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ATC speed requirements on descent?

Hi guys,
Can anyone advise if the old requirement for 300kts on descent above 10 still applies in Aus?
Thanks.
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Was there a legal requirement for 300 above 10? I doubt it as each operator had an "agreement" with Air Services for specific aircraft type profiles I think?
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... think thats right Centaurus ...
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There is no speed requirement on descent above 10. I am fairly sure that if you are on descent into E you have to slow to 250 in the E? Can't recall, lots of changes. As far as I can remember, the only speed requirement is 250 knots out of a holding pattern and even then you only have to tell ATC, not ask if you are going to vary that by 10 knots or more.
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No it is not a requirement; bugger all do it now with the econ descent and better lift generating wings... Of course they can do it, but most don't; descent speeds generally are a mistery, so we say every second transmission when giving descent, descend at XXXKts above A100.
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No restrictions above 10
250 kts below 10 in E and G airspace
250 kts leaving a holding pattern
there are multiple speeds whilst holding and during an instrument approach missed approach etc
Most STAR's have a restriction on not above 250 kts below 10.

Some of the bussier airports have speed restrictions below 10
and although not very busy so does Darwin?
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Old 14th Aug 2006, 23:50
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Bob.

Thanks for the heads up. Darwin today is much better than a few years ago.
The new procedures sound like someone is at least trying to make the system work more efficiently.

From an RPT jet point of view knowing in advance a plan that approximates whats going to happen, and how many track miles it involves, is important. It enhances fuel economy and cuts the workload. Get Brisbane Centre to pass it to the customer asap before descent.
 
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King Oath said:
Thanks for the heads up. Darwin today is much better than a few years ago.
The new procedures sound like someone is at least trying to make the system work more efficiently.
Efficient isn't the word I'd use. Stars that can add up to 40ish track miles aren't all that efficient. Just this week I was told that the TMP is considering slot times! I haven't determined whether some one's pulling my leg, or not.



And now that I've read Bob55's post in its entirity, I see that my legs are of even length.
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How about an electronic ATIS via ACARS - DRW and any other military strip where RPT operate seem well behind the times!

How bout an ILS on 11 too.


...hmmm what else is on the wish list.....
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An ILS on 11 would be an advantage - especially as the cyclone weather always seems to come from the east. No fun doing the "Golden Arches" approach on the VOR!!
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