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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 03:09
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Missing from Fantome's WIKI list is the Fuji that was lost between King Island and Cape Otway one Christmas Eve, bound for Melton. Early 70's.

Approaching last light so a decent search not possible until next morning. The pilot had passed up on an opportunity to stay overnight on King Is. as he wanted to be at home next morning with his kids.
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Around the same time as Fred disappeared the were strange lights in the Tasman off the New Zealand coast. From a distant memory they were sighted from a military Orion, could have been an Oz one. I'm sure it would be documented somewhere. A vague recolection was they said the bright lights doing impossible speeds were a natural coud formation or some such.
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Found it, was before Fred's loss.
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Super Cecil, that event in New Zealand happened two months after Fred's disappearance. Here's a report of it with footage caught by the Australian reporter and camera crew.

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Boring is good in this flying business. Being shot at or attacked by UFO's is best left to others.
so right there, By George.

(The late George Roberts, a lifelong Qantas engineer, wrote a fine little memoir of his life. He called it 'Qantas - By George' .. .. what else?)


OFOs . . . . . Bruce Cathie, a NZ airline pilot, wrote a number of books that documented many strange sighting in and around NZ, some from aircraft, others terrestrial.

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Bruce Leonard Cathie (1930 – 2 June 2013) was a New Zealand airline pilot who wrote seven books related to flying saucers and a "World energy grid".
His central thesis was that the laws of mathematics describe a grid-like pattern on the earth that powers flying saucers and controls the dates and places where nuclear bombs can function. He claimed to have successfully predicted the detonation time of an early French nuclear test using his harmonic "mathematics", which is based around trigonometry and geophysical latitude/longitude coordinates.

His discoveries are in the same vein of research as Einstein's "unified field theory", where gravity, time and space and their relation therein can all be expressed in one equation It is claimed that the US military attempted on more than one occasion to silence him, offering bribes in the millions.

Cathie claimed that he first saw a flying saucer over the Manukau Harbour, Auckland in 1952 and in discussions with other airline pilots discovered this wasn't uncommon.

His first book Harmonic 33, was published in New Zealand in 1968 and reprinted in the United Kingdom by Sphere Books in 1980.
New Zealand millennial author Barry Smith claimed to have received his information on restrictions on nuclear weapons from Cathie.

An interview with him was played in the fourth episode of the fourth series of the US television program In Search of....

Cathie died in Takapuna in 2013.

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Apparently the National Archives has an online copy of the Australian Government file on Fred Valentich's disappearance. It has 317 pages in the file and includes reports from a number of government agencies including the Department of Transport, BASI (Bureau of Air Safety Investigation), Royal Australian Navy, RAAF and others.

I've only read the first 20 or so pages of the file so haven't had a chance to look at it in detail. Here's the link to the Government file on Valentich's disappearance, file number V116/783/1047.

Below is a screen capture of one of the reports from the file, from the RAN Research Lab, on the wreckage found washed up on the coast of Flinders Island in 1983 which is believed to be a cowl flap from a Cessna C182.

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