Eastern Interview
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I don't work at Eastern but suspect the numbers are similar at most of the regionals...
My understanding is that a bond is pretty much un-enforcable from an industrial relations standpoint. I suspect that the whole requiring people to pay upfront is to slow the flow to better paid overseas positions, a bond will not achieve this. Contrary to popular belief, I don't think the airlines are worried about 'the money', but they are worried about losing staff in ever increasing numbers in the future...
My understanding is that a bond is pretty much un-enforcable from an industrial relations standpoint. I suspect that the whole requiring people to pay upfront is to slow the flow to better paid overseas positions, a bond will not achieve this. Contrary to popular belief, I don't think the airlines are worried about 'the money', but they are worried about losing staff in ever increasing numbers in the future...
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What I predict is the supply of these opulent aircrew will soon dry up and the airlines will be forced to re-introduce the bond. The sooner the better. It's obscene to even consider expecting a pilot to buy his way into a job!
I'm not alone in this. There are many others in the regionals who are in the same boat or similar. Qantas is not a possibility for many of us, and even though the pay may be considerably less than many of you out there earn - it is considerably more that what I earn now.
As far as being 'opulent' - It will take someone in my position 18months - 2 years to make it up, and nobody really has any trouble finding a loan for this figure.
Paying up front is pathetic, no argument. The companies are wrong for doing this. However they are doing it - so if guys in my position chose to fight a 'moral crusade' they will firmly apply the 'handbrake' to their careers.
If you are lucky enough to be on the other side of the recruitment hurdle, then good for you. However spare a thought for everybody else out there. We are just wanting to get ahead in this world too.
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.............and a Jetstar command possibly within 2-3 years.
.....It will take someone in my position 18months - 2 years to make it up,
Oh, and by the way you will not make $100,000 as an F/O with Jetstar OR VB !
As an FO I will earn approx $50k (Not to bad by regional Turbo Prop standards), but if I start with Jetstar or VB etc I could at least double my income.
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Pay Scales
Virgin Blue Captain pay rate:
$129898
Jetstar Narrow Body (single isle) Captain pay rate:
$136860 from 1st August 2006
Jetstar Wide Body Captain pay rate:
$147809
Eastern pay rate:
Capt $82101 for 6th year of service (a command will take at least this long)
FO $48236 for first year, $41001 during training
This assumes that the currently proposed EBA is voted in, which is doubtful since it's crap. Anyway current rates are only 3% less...
As far as paying for an endorsement is concerned, I disagree with it and refuse to do so. VB started it, Jester followed suit and Eastern should never have gone there.
On the bright side, you'll find the pilot group at Eastern to be great to work with, even if morale is at an all time low
$129898
Jetstar Narrow Body (single isle) Captain pay rate:
$136860 from 1st August 2006
Jetstar Wide Body Captain pay rate:
$147809
Eastern pay rate:
Capt $82101 for 6th year of service (a command will take at least this long)
FO $48236 for first year, $41001 during training
This assumes that the currently proposed EBA is voted in, which is doubtful since it's crap. Anyway current rates are only 3% less...
As far as paying for an endorsement is concerned, I disagree with it and refuse to do so. VB started it, Jester followed suit and Eastern should never have gone there.
On the bright side, you'll find the pilot group at Eastern to be great to work with, even if morale is at an all time low
