Sth Africans try to 'relocate' YPJT for massive profit, yes or no. Lets hear it?
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We only just got through the worst of the roadworks into JT! Now they want to move the entire thing elsewhere, Keysbrook of all places. Serpentine and Murrayfield are close together as it is but shoving a YPJT GAAP sized thing would ensure that one of them is no longer. North of the river folk obviously just don't fly- or won't if the move occurs I'm sure! 
ECU is moving all of it's Aviation units to Joondalup as of next year, I pity the poor buggers if Jandakot moves in the opposite direction....
ECU is moving all of it's Aviation units to Joondalup as of next year, I pity the poor buggers if Jandakot moves in the opposite direction....
Issue 1.
I challenge anyone to find a suitably sized parcel of land between Perth and Pinjarra that could accomodate a relocated airport of the size and complexity of Jandakot. If you find one even close to size, look at what adjoins it.
Issue 2.
JAH lease the airport, they do not own it. Imagine telling your landlord that you were planning to relocate the house that you rent from him/her.
Issue 3.
The major infrastructure that had been built by operators at Jandakot will ned to be duplicated, at whose cost? The magic word...c o m p e n s a t i o n.
Issue 4.
Massive and I mean massive public pressure.
Tell 'em they're dreamin.
I challenge anyone to find a suitably sized parcel of land between Perth and Pinjarra that could accomodate a relocated airport of the size and complexity of Jandakot. If you find one even close to size, look at what adjoins it.
Issue 2.
JAH lease the airport, they do not own it. Imagine telling your landlord that you were planning to relocate the house that you rent from him/her.
Issue 3.
The major infrastructure that had been built by operators at Jandakot will ned to be duplicated, at whose cost? The magic word...c o m p e n s a t i o n.
Issue 4.
Massive and I mean massive public pressure.
Tell 'em they're dreamin.
Last edited by Icarus2001; 19th Jun 2006 at 08:34.
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I heard from a reliable source that they wanted to bulldoze the chalets and surrounding nature park. Apparently the Bandicoots and CALM have thrown a spanner in the works.
Tossers!
Tossers!
Thread Starter
YPJT to Relocate??
G'day Gaunty, CFI, and all JT tenants......
It has all gone 'quiet' after the initial burst.
Anything further from the lease holders??
Are we still confident in our future business planning to remain 'as is / where is', for the foreseeable future, or are further plans - any increases in rent, parking fees, etc., still to be announced, do you think??
How is the 'consultation' process going??
Anybody 'in the know?'
Genuine enquiry - all 'goss' will be 'thought about'...
Cheers
It has all gone 'quiet' after the initial burst.
Anything further from the lease holders??
Are we still confident in our future business planning to remain 'as is / where is', for the foreseeable future, or are further plans - any increases in rent, parking fees, etc., still to be announced, do you think??
How is the 'consultation' process going??
Anybody 'in the know?'
Genuine enquiry - all 'goss' will be 'thought about'...
Cheers
Another gem from JAH
29 JUNE 2006
NOTICE TO ALL TENANTS
Following the change of ownership and management of Jandakot Airport earlier this year, an extensive study was initiated to establish a strategy for it's (sic) future development.
When Jandakot Airport was first established its location was well outside Perth's city area, and its aircraft movements did not clash with activity from Perth's main airport. Today the picture has changed dramatically with Perth's population now at 1.5 million and increasing robustly each year.
In line with this, the city's suburbs have grown and Perth's International flight activities have multiplied as have those at Jandakot so that they now intrude on each other.
Prima Facia, and from the input thus far recieved, there seems to be an overwhelming case for moving the airport to a more suitable location outside of the city.
The primary reasons motivating moving the airport revolve around the following factors
1) The airport is now in the midst of a densely populated residential area and moving the airport out of the city would be widely welcomed by residents.
2) The flight activity at both Perth and Jandakot airports has increased to the point where it is technically desirable to close the present Jandakot Airport and construct a new airport further away from Perth International.
3. Capital expenditure that is now needed for the efficient functioning and future growth of the airport will if spent, be wasted when the airport is forced to relocate which sooner or later is inevitable.
4. Should Jandakot Airport be moved to a new site, the value of the land released to meet growing demand will, if developed, generate the funds required to construct a modern new airport facility without needing Federal or State government assisstance.
It is thus propsed that a new airport be developed about forty kilometers south of Jandakot which would provide expanded capacity, improved facilites and favourable lease terms for all Jandakot tenants and flying schools.
In consequence, JAH management is in the process of consulting with interested parties on how this can be achieved with minimal disruption and wishes to have an opportunity to discuss this initiatiatve with you.
I will be contacting you and hope to see you soon.
Regards
JOHN FRASER
Hmm, I didn't realise there had been a change of ownership of Jandakot Airport, as far as I am aware it still belongs to the Commonwealth?
Will this "extensive study" be made available? How does it negate the Master Plan??
Would love to see their facts and figures!
"The primary reasons motivating moving the airport" are lots of these $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Anyway, thanks for letting us know, John, even if "flying schools" don't count as tenants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Better than hearing it on the news like last time.
NOTICE TO ALL TENANTS
Following the change of ownership and management of Jandakot Airport earlier this year, an extensive study was initiated to establish a strategy for it's (sic) future development.
When Jandakot Airport was first established its location was well outside Perth's city area, and its aircraft movements did not clash with activity from Perth's main airport. Today the picture has changed dramatically with Perth's population now at 1.5 million and increasing robustly each year.
In line with this, the city's suburbs have grown and Perth's International flight activities have multiplied as have those at Jandakot so that they now intrude on each other.
Prima Facia, and from the input thus far recieved, there seems to be an overwhelming case for moving the airport to a more suitable location outside of the city.
The primary reasons motivating moving the airport revolve around the following factors
1) The airport is now in the midst of a densely populated residential area and moving the airport out of the city would be widely welcomed by residents.
2) The flight activity at both Perth and Jandakot airports has increased to the point where it is technically desirable to close the present Jandakot Airport and construct a new airport further away from Perth International.
3. Capital expenditure that is now needed for the efficient functioning and future growth of the airport will if spent, be wasted when the airport is forced to relocate which sooner or later is inevitable.
4. Should Jandakot Airport be moved to a new site, the value of the land released to meet growing demand will, if developed, generate the funds required to construct a modern new airport facility without needing Federal or State government assisstance.
It is thus propsed that a new airport be developed about forty kilometers south of Jandakot which would provide expanded capacity, improved facilites and favourable lease terms for all Jandakot tenants and flying schools.
In consequence, JAH management is in the process of consulting with interested parties on how this can be achieved with minimal disruption and wishes to have an opportunity to discuss this initiatiatve with you.
I will be contacting you and hope to see you soon.
Regards
JOHN FRASER
Hmm, I didn't realise there had been a change of ownership of Jandakot Airport, as far as I am aware it still belongs to the Commonwealth?
Will this "extensive study" be made available? How does it negate the Master Plan??
Would love to see their facts and figures!
"The primary reasons motivating moving the airport" are lots of these $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Anyway, thanks for letting us know, John, even if "flying schools" don't count as tenants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Better than hearing it on the news like last time.
Rumour is the airport manager found out about her resignation like the rest of us, via a mass email from her boss - while she was on sick leave. Allegedly. 
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Well it begs the question. If it is so viable. Why doesn't the company buy the runway further down south, build some hangers and compete against Jandakot? I don't think anyone would disagree with that?
Of course I already know the answer... I'm just biased being a Perth boy
Of course I already know the answer... I'm just biased being a Perth boy
Thread Starter
YPJT To Relocate??
Dear John Fraser,
Please note:
As far as I and many others are aware, you or your company
DO NOT OWN THE LAND AT YPJT!!!
Therefore, as far as I am aware,
YOU cannot 'sell' the land, rezone it, and 'convert' it to housing lots.......
If the above is NOT correct, then would someone kindly enlighten me.
Thankyou.
Please note:
As far as I and many others are aware, you or your company
DO NOT OWN THE LAND AT YPJT!!!
Therefore, as far as I am aware,
YOU cannot 'sell' the land, rezone it, and 'convert' it to housing lots.......
If the above is NOT correct, then would someone kindly enlighten me.
Thankyou.
Originally Posted by YPJT
3. Capital expenditure that is now needed for the efficient functioning and future growth of the airport will if spent, be wasted when the airport is forced to relocate which sooner or later is inevitable.
4. Should Jandakot Airport be moved to a new site, the value of the land released to meet growing demand will, if developed, generate the funds required to construct a modern new airport facility without needing Federal or State government assisstance.
It is thus propsed that a new airport be developed about forty kilometers south of Jandakot which would provide expanded capacity, improved facilites and favourable lease terms for all Jandakot tenants and flying schools.
4. Should Jandakot Airport be moved to a new site, the value of the land released to meet growing demand will, if developed, generate the funds required to construct a modern new airport facility without needing Federal or State government assisstance.
It is thus propsed that a new airport be developed about forty kilometers south of Jandakot which would provide expanded capacity, improved facilites and favourable lease terms for all Jandakot tenants and flying schools.
If JAH isn't careful, WAC might nick the land they have their eye on.You can't "release" the land because you don't own it!!
Forty clicks South?
That would mean ~70km to drive there everyday, 140km round trip. Get stuffed! I would truly hate to live up in the Northern Suburbs, or to be a uni student travelling from lectures at Joondalup down to the airport for a flight after class, you'd need a night rating prior to first solo.
Pearce has a flying club still doesn't it?? Go north young man.
Onya son.They moved to YGIG for a while but I think died a slow and natural death. Shame really, in it's days at Pearce it was great. The whole of the base to yourself. Although taxiing to 08 was a bugger!
Now back to Mr Fraser's letter:
1) The airport is now in the midst of a densely populated residential area and moving the airport out of the city would be widely welcomed by residents.
2) The flight activity at both Perth and Jandakot airports has increased to the point where it is technically desirable to close the present Jandakot Airport and construct a new airport further away from Perth International.
3. Capital expenditure that is now needed for the efficient functioning and future growth of the airport will if spent, be wasted when the airport is forced to relocate which sooner or later is inevitable.
4. Should Jandakot Airport be moved to a new site, the value of the land released to meet growing demand will, if developed, generate the funds required to construct a modern new airport facility without needing Federal or State government assisstance
Last edited by YPJT; 29th Jun 2006 at 17:05.
Originally Posted by Pass-A-Frozo
Serves them right for being northern suburbs losers 
2) The flight activity at both Perth and Jandakot airports has increased to the point where it is technically desirable to close the present Jandakot Airport and construct a new airport further away from Perth International.
Rumour has it 
that a certain very senior person from RFDS sent a scathing email to our mate JF yesterday.
JF could not be contacted for comment.
Hard to speak when you've been knocked for six! (or to simplify, been rumbled for your real motives)
that a certain very senior person from RFDS sent a scathing email to our mate JF yesterday.JF could not be contacted for comment.
Hard to speak when you've been knocked for six! (or to simplify, been rumbled for your real motives)
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Originally Posted by YPJT
Will this "extensive study" be made available? How does it negate the Master Plan??
Keep up the good work of updating us YPJT.
