IFR MEATBOMBS at TORQUAY?
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IFR MEATBOMBS at TORQUAY?
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Just wondering if the mob at Torquay has approval to jump through cloud coz they were yesterday, overheard on the radio couple of weeks ago a call from stressed meatbomb pilot asking Torquay ground if they could see any holes, I wonder how he got up there.
Seems some people have a very short memory.
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Just wondering if the mob at Torquay has approval to jump through cloud coz they were yesterday, overheard on the radio couple of weeks ago a call from stressed meatbomb pilot asking Torquay ground if they could see any holes, I wonder how he got up there.
Seems some people have a very short memory.
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Jumping through cloud
If you look at the cASA web site you will find that appoval has been given for skydiving through cloud. For a selected operator.
I thought the rules were for everyone.
I thought the rules were for everyone.
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"Nah mate.....private ops.... we can do whatever we like!"
Some of these clowns need a good dose of the water cannon!
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Some of these clowns need a good dose of the water cannon!
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As long as the aircraft is certified IFR you can do what you like...
You can always hear Sydney Skydiving aircraft calling "IFR Twotter taxing for parachute ops"
The responsibilty then comes on the jump master for wanting to jump through cloud!, and not the pilot!
But me guessing its only a clapped out C182????..... Hey as long as the AH works and pilot isn't an idiot then he will not hurt anyone...
We all remember our days of meatbombing and wank?r skydiving people desperate for cash....
So at the end of the day QNIM Who gives a SH!T....
Are you just pissed off because they won't let you fly there??
You can always hear Sydney Skydiving aircraft calling "IFR Twotter taxing for parachute ops"
The responsibilty then comes on the jump master for wanting to jump through cloud!, and not the pilot!
But me guessing its only a clapped out C182????..... Hey as long as the AH works and pilot isn't an idiot then he will not hurt anyone...
We all remember our days of meatbombing and wank?r skydiving people desperate for cash....
So at the end of the day QNIM Who gives a SH!T....
Are you just pissed off because they won't let you fly there??
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But me guessing its only a clapped out C182????..... Hey as long as the AH works and pilot isn't an idiot then he will not hurt anyone
So at the end of the day QNIM Who gives a SH!T....
And what about the legitimate IFR pilot transitting the area who would have no idea they are dropping through cloud???
So at the end of the day QNIM Who gives a SH!T....
And what about the legitimate IFR pilot transitting the area who would have no idea they are dropping through cloud???
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OK OK OK........... Now EPIRB is assuming that the said person doesn't make a radio call...... Now no one said that you IDIOT...
OK now your putting a picture in your head and assuming that the pilot is a ball-less person willing to be told what to do....
So how do you know its not something like:
Pilot to Jumpmaster -
"I'm flying this piece of SH!T, and if I say NO it means NO!"
But of course now I am assuming aren't I!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
However we all know that jumpmasters and GA bosses always push pilots to go the extra mile, but hopefully you get through life with enough BALLS to know when to take charge erring on safety before you kill yourself or someone else....
I don't even know if he is flying a clapped out Cessna or an IFR Navajo....
OK now your putting a picture in your head and assuming that the pilot is a ball-less person willing to be told what to do....
So how do you know its not something like:
Pilot to Jumpmaster -
"I'm flying this piece of SH!T, and if I say NO it means NO!"
But of course now I am assuming aren't I!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
However we all know that jumpmasters and GA bosses always push pilots to go the extra mile, but hopefully you get through life with enough BALLS to know when to take charge erring on safety before you kill yourself or someone else....
I don't even know if he is flying a clapped out Cessna or an IFR Navajo....
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I was under the impression that the large skydiving company in Sydney was the ONLY operator to get clearance to drop through cloud? And even then that clearance is only limited to Tandems and Experienced skydivers (again dont quote me) I have heard multiple stories of students being thrown out of the plane down there into cloud (which is illegal mind you).
Long story short, yes you can have IFR PJE ops, the plane needs to be IFR (no sh!t) as well as the pilot and recent for the approaches reqiured at that DZ or airfield.
At the end of the day if your dropping meatbombs through clouds with 1000-1500' bases you should be shot (my personal opinon) unless you DZSO is ok with off DZ landings...
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Long story short, yes you can have IFR PJE ops, the plane needs to be IFR (no sh!t) as well as the pilot and recent for the approaches reqiured at that DZ or airfield.
At the end of the day if your dropping meatbombs through clouds with 1000-1500' bases you should be shot (my personal opinon) unless you DZSO is ok with off DZ landings...
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QNIM - mate, if you weren't there, you can't comment.
If you were there and you saw it happen, then you could comment.
Hearing stuff on the radio doesn't mean that it happens.
I hear things all the time on the radio... couple of mates when they fly together they always add 100 knots to their airspeeds when chatting on the radio. Gee if you'd heard that you'd think some fighter jets were taking on Melbourne.
If you were there and you saw it happen, then you could comment.
Hearing stuff on the radio doesn't mean that it happens.
I hear things all the time on the radio... couple of mates when they fly together they always add 100 knots to their airspeeds when chatting on the radio. Gee if you'd heard that you'd think some fighter jets were taking on Melbourne.
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Yep it is happening again and has been since the CI from Barwon Heads shifted to Torquay. Seems as though the APF ignore this guy and he has dispensation from all the rules and protection from within CASA.
Pilots also operate contrary to rules no circuits straight in from out to sea with a 20knt tail wind, and has been seen take off with load with tail wind makes it interesting viewing when you witness the plane become airborne then sink quickly almost to the ground again with wings at 30 degree to level.
Owner seems oblivious to the fact that it appears the suspened operator from BH is operating behind the sceens. Wake up wandy?
Pilots also operate contrary to rules no circuits straight in from out to sea with a 20knt tail wind, and has been seen take off with load with tail wind makes it interesting viewing when you witness the plane become airborne then sink quickly almost to the ground again with wings at 30 degree to level.
Owner seems oblivious to the fact that it appears the suspened operator from BH is operating behind the sceens. Wake up wandy?
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QNIM, dont make allegations that you cant substantiate
In response to your allegations, i am not suprised considering your track record, that the videos of the alleged jumps were checked and it has been confirmed once again that the jumps conducted were well within the rules and regulations.
If you have any real evidence that contradicts this, then please follow protocol and send it to the APF.
In the mean time may i suggest that you work at getting along with your fellow aviators, you will be amazed on how good relationships will improve safety within the area.
Cheers
ACCC
If you have any real evidence that contradicts this, then please follow protocol and send it to the APF.
In the mean time may i suggest that you work at getting along with your fellow aviators, you will be amazed on how good relationships will improve safety within the area.
Cheers
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You are asking all to get along in this forum but slagging others by attacking the hangars plans around the corner in the next forum, are you unstable? if you suffer a problem it would make sense.
You are asking all to get along in this forum but slagging others by attacking the hangars plans around the corner in the next forum, are you unstable? if you suffer a problem it would make sense.
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Just coasting past and noticed your thread,am trying to figure out "What's your point
Fluffy,
My point was purely general information, i have not "slagged" anyone in regards to the hangar issue.
My posts do date all have a common theme,
There is an underlying culture with the 3 ringed circus, were aviation is suffering purely becuase of the ongoing slagging matches and a long history of false reporting in attempt to gain a competitive edge, which goes way back, long before parachuting arrived at Torqair.
I wish you well with your bug smacking enterprise.
Cheers
ACCC
My point was purely general information, i have not "slagged" anyone in regards to the hangar issue.
My posts do date all have a common theme,
There is an underlying culture with the 3 ringed circus, were aviation is suffering purely becuase of the ongoing slagging matches and a long history of false reporting in attempt to gain a competitive edge, which goes way back, long before parachuting arrived at Torqair.
I wish you well with your bug smacking enterprise.
Cheers
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Originally Posted by Wheeler
We all know jump pilots are specially gifted to never encounter cloud, either going up or down - so a VFR plane and pilot are always fine in that industry sector aren't they?
I have not flown many times and have told the boss that a jump cannot be possible for 2 reasons;
A) I will not be able to maintain VFR for the ENTIRE duration of the flight
B) Even if we did get "on top" the jumpers with breech APF op regs, with respect to jumping through cloud
Only you can set the standards, no one else can set them for you! And if you think they can, well you should not be flying. Likewise if the boss tells you "she will be right" tell them where to stick it (unless you are scared of losing your job
)Blue Skies and happy landings
CMN