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Old 10th May 2006, 10:34
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Thumbs down What's going on here?

Have noticed recently the annoying trend of pax standing up before we're stopped at the gate and turned the 'belts light off. See this all the time in Asia but not in Oz.
What's the story, is it comonplace?
Time to re-educate these impatient idiots and jump on the brakes at the gate I reckon.
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And then watch your career terminate.

You could kill someone doing that...last I looked being impatient and, yes, stupid didn't carry the death penalty...unlike premeditated murder....because a fairly ordinary Lawyer could prove that to the judges satisfaction in more than one Asian country I can think of.
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Dunno...

Just a wee nudge to wake 'em up. Anyway, my foot slipped!! I thought one of the ground-crew was getting too close!! Have to be a fairly second-rate lawyer to not get you out of that one.
I realize the Asian FA's have little control over the pax sometimes, but it sh#ts me seeing it here.
Pre-meditated murder is a bit steep.
"After all your worship, this is precisely why we tell people to remain seated until the aircraft has come to a complete stop and the seat belt sign,etc..." QED. Home in time for tea!
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And slam your FA's into the bulkhead as they disarm the doors etc!! Good one guys.

Bad idea. (even if they are old dragons)
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Negative

Well no, because they wouldn't be up and running around before the sign goes out, are they??
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See this all the time,seems to me that QF are the worst for allowing it to happen,whereas the DJ girls and boys stamp on it!
As heard on arrival YSSY recently (DJ) 'Ladies and Gents,in all of aviation history ,the passenger has never made it to the terminal before the aircraft,so please remain seated with your seat belts fastened blah bah blah'.
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Old 10th May 2006, 13:00
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Standing ovation

I'm with cross dress... I mean crossbleed.. pre meditated murder a little steep.
Touch of the breaks capt please.

AU was the place of the some of the best pax in the world behaviour wise.

Try Egyptian and Indian flts with pax standing moments after touch down....
That seat belt release click sends me into a flying rage into the cabin (pun intended)

SIT DOWN PLEEESE! waving the hands around like a demented stork taking off!

All too much
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"breaks" or brakes?

Still, with what some of you are suggesting one would lead to the other I suppose.
 
Old 10th May 2006, 21:31
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Its a simple concept - SIT DOWN until the seatbelt sign is turned OFF - I fail to understand why pax refuse to follow this very simple (and safety-related!) instruction!

However, in their defense, one reason I can think of - on the B737 our SOP is once the rear doors have been disarmed and crosschecked, the rear based F/A's ring the Cabin Supervisor to pass this info on. The "ding dong, ding dong" sound the interphone makes as the a/c is slowing down for the last few feet before stopping at the gate can possibly be miscontrued by pax as being the sound the seatbelt sign makes when turning off. This does not change the fact that they have already had the lighted sign pointed out to them a number of times, however it could be something worth looking into?
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contemplating jumping on the brakes to teach them a lesson, I can't understand how you ever got yourself into a position to be allowed to operate the brakes.
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Best way I saw the situation handled is the FAs grabbed the PA and as soon as one person stood up just said 'Don't even think about it'. Everyone laughed and made the person feel like a right fool that they are.

Oxygen thieves some people!
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Thumbs up Peasy Toolish...

Just went O/S me old china plate.
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Surely it is the responsibility of the applicable cabin manager/supervisor to make sure all their F/A's are keeping everybody in their seats and adhering to company standards until the seat belt sign has gone out!

It is commonplace for aircraft to brake hard (read jerkily) either intentionally or due to inexperience with the aircraft. We have a duty of care to provide safe passage for our customers, this includes telling them to "SIT DOWN" where appropriate.

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Old 11th May 2006, 02:09
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I currently have the pleasure of commuting NZCH -YBTL on a regular basis using Jet * and VB, and find that on every flight 95% of folk always stand up and start grabbing overhead luggage etc ASAP once at the gate. Only the old, infirm and the informed ( myself included) stay put for the 3 or 4 mins that it generaly takes from actually stopping to getting the flybridge connected. For better or worse I dont think that youll ever stop this happening.:
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Whats next Helmets and Head restraints.................
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Recently observed a fellow jump out of his seat as the aircraft taxied into bay seat belt sign "ON" and open his overhead locker while unbalanced only to be greeted by his duty free hitting him square in the forehead.

I pissed my self laughing and I could not help calling him a dope
It was a great start to my holiday....

but then again I may be the kind of person whom might think it funny anyway
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Old 11th May 2006, 06:31
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Originally Posted by Howard Hughes
Surely it is the responsibility of the applicable cabin manager/supervisor to make sure all their F/A's are keeping everybody in their seats and adhering to company standards until the seat belt sign has gone out!
Absolutely - however the problem is that most often (in the instances I see) pax are getting up as the crew are disarming their doors - and only so many PA's etc can be made telling the punters to sit the fcuk down - and the crew really should not be leaving their door stations whilst the a/c is moving. Unfortunately there are just some people who flatly refuse to listen to anything anyone tells/asks them - people like that should seek alternative, more appropriate methods of transport - eg walking
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Old 12th May 2006, 05:06
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Whilst I agree wholeheartedly with the requirement for passengers to remain seated until the aircraft comes to a "complete stop" (how is that different to a "stop"), I have often wondered what the difference is between passengers standing up in aisles of a slowly moving passenger aircraft to those many thousands of passengers standing up in the aisles of suburban trains and buses that are often moving significantly faster than a taxying aircraft? Are we being a little bit precious here?
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Originally Posted by QSK?
Whilst I agree wholeheartedly with the requirement for passengers to remain seated until the aircraft comes to a "complete stop" (how is that different to a "stop"), I have often wondered what the difference is between passengers standing up in aisles of a slowly moving passenger aircraft to those many thousands of passengers standing up in the aisles of suburban trains and buses that are often moving significantly faster than a taxying aircraft? Are we being a little bit precious here?
Wouldn't think so, but you raise a good point. At least you have chunky straps and/or poles to hold onto in a bus or train. Your options are limited in the cabin - overhead locker handle maybe? Hope that some duty free doesn't knock your teeth out.
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Old 12th May 2006, 06:10
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Get a life.....jeeeeez!

Who are they hurting but possibly themselves? and it isn't their safety you all seem to be worried about, but an opportunity to exercise your schoolyard mentalities.
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