Hard landing
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Hard landing
This is probably a stupid question - but can anyone give me a strict definition of what a 'hard landing' is?
Is it when you leave bits behind? What's the difference between a 'hard' landing and a 'harder than normal' landing?
Is it when you leave bits behind? What's the difference between a 'hard' landing and a 'harder than normal' landing?
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If you get a punch to the head and you fall over, it is a hard punch.
If you get a punch to the head and you don't fall over, it's probably worth reporting, (if you are the "punchee"). but not a hard punch.
If you get a punch to the head, (and you deserved it), and you still don't fall over, then you should accept the fact that you have no idea about the concept of "airmanship" probably don't give a rat's about the owner, have a thick skull and will grow up to become someone I should avoid.
All this aside, look at the firewall and the fuselage. If you see something abnormal, like a bent piece of tin, and you have spinal injuries, it is probably a "hard landing".
Or ask someone about common sense.
If you get a punch to the head and you don't fall over, it's probably worth reporting, (if you are the "punchee"). but not a hard punch.
If you get a punch to the head, (and you deserved it), and you still don't fall over, then you should accept the fact that you have no idea about the concept of "airmanship" probably don't give a rat's about the owner, have a thick skull and will grow up to become someone I should avoid.
All this aside, look at the firewall and the fuselage. If you see something abnormal, like a bent piece of tin, and you have spinal injuries, it is probably a "hard landing".
Or ask someone about common sense.
For me this one works:
When you stoof it in, after landing the cabin crew don't even say a thing!
If it is lower down on the richter scale, they'll be sure to take the p***!
The conspiracy of silence surrounding a real bender normally says it all!
Have you heard the old airline adage? A good landing - luck. 2 good landings in a row - a fluke. 3 good landings in a row - someone is telling porkies!
When you stoof it in, after landing the cabin crew don't even say a thing!
If it is lower down on the richter scale, they'll be sure to take the p***!
The conspiracy of silence surrounding a real bender normally says it all!
Have you heard the old airline adage? A good landing - luck. 2 good landings in a row - a fluke. 3 good landings in a row - someone is telling porkies!
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Have a look at FAR25.473
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...4cfr25.473.pdf
For transport category aircraft a descent rate of 600fpm at max landing weight and 360 fpm at max takeoff weight are the certification requirements.
A landing in excess of these figures might be considered heavy. Not sure if you can interpolate to higher rates of descent for weights below the maximums quoted.
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http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...4cfr25.473.pdf
For transport category aircraft a descent rate of 600fpm at max landing weight and 360 fpm at max takeoff weight are the certification requirements.
A landing in excess of these figures might be considered heavy. Not sure if you can interpolate to higher rates of descent for weights below the maximums quoted.
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If after landing, you have difficulty taxiing and you are sitting closer to the ground, it's a hard landing.
Seriously, I'm keen to know as well. It might be a little like pornography; hard to define but you'll know it when you see it.
Seriously, I'm keen to know as well. It might be a little like pornography; hard to define but you'll know it when you see it.
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This is a hard landing.
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http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...eos/MD-80.mpeg